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Julia Solly
Julia Solly nee Muspratt (1862 - 1953) was a feminist and temperance worker. Born in England, she was educated at Cheltenham Ladies College and Liverpool University College. After her marriage she moved to South Africa, where she lived for a time in Kimberley where her husband worked as a railway engineer, and she was very much involved in the Women’s Temperance Union. According to Langham-Carter (1981: 589), “She and Olive Schreiner were firm friends from 1892 onwards and they often worked together in women’s causes”. However, in fact it is not at all apparent that Schreiner and Julia Solly were ‘firm friends’, nor when they first met, but the focus of their connection was certainly the mutual involvement from 1907 onwards in the Cape Women’s Enfranchisement League. Solly had six children and is said to have had an “earnest and rather autocratic disposition” (Langham-Carter 1981: 589). In 1913 she became a member of the National Council of Women and later one of its vice-presidents. She was also active in pacifist circles.
Schreiner’s letters to Julia Solly provide fascinating insight into the workings of the WEL and the internal as well as external politics of the organisation. Schreiner’s earliest extant letter to Solly dates from the period when Schreiner was living in Kimberley (1894 - 1898) and from its content it suggests that Julia Solly perhaps through her husband helped provide Schreiner with contacts who had information about the atrocities in Matabeleland and Mashonaland in 1896. The next extant letter dates from 1902 and in it Schreiner suggests that Solly should write a public letter about the importance of women being able to join the South African Party on the same terms as men. Indeed all of Schreiner’s subsequent letters to Solly concern matters relating to women’s politics and the women’s suffrage movement in some way, and they read very much as political business letters. At times Schreiner’s letters to Julia Solly are combative and exhortatory, for example as she tries to get her to accept that in order for the WEL to function effectively, it had to unite all South African women and not play to factions: “It seems to me that a woman’s suffrage society knowing nothing of party or religious or race differences and working solely for
we want some one organization in which all women can unite.”
Several of Schreiner’s letters to Julia Solly discuss the problematic figure of Irene Macfadyen, who was for a time in 1907 and 1908 WEL president and who Schreiner felt strongly was a divisive influence, given her parallel membership of the pro-imperialist (and anti women’s suffrage) Loyal Ladies League and her racist views. Schreiner’s letters to Solly also show her anger when the WEL made overtures towards women’s suffrage groups in the Transvaal which were pursuing women’s enfranchisement on the same (racial) terms as men, something to which Schreiner was vehemently opposed. While it is apparent from her letters to others that Schreiner found Julia Solly in many ways a ‘difficult’ woman, she nonetheless wrote flatteringly to her in 1910: “You ought to be the first woman we send to parliament and the only woman fit to go.” Schreiner’s stance in her letters to Solly is the exhortatory and persuasive approach she used to deal in epistolary terms with people she disagreed with but hoped were persuadable in a more progressive direction.
Schreiner’s letters to Julia Solly appear to cease when she left South Africa in 1913, although there are two extant letters from 1920 after her return to South Africa which suggest that they not only exchanged letters but might have met again around this time, with Schreiner suggesting that they meet for supper before a concert and commenting, “We shall have much to talk over”. Julia Solly continued her involvement in the campaign for women’s enfranchisement for some years, although her political motives differed from Schreiner’s radical and strictly egalitarian ones: “In 1926 Julia Solly argued before the parliamentary select committee that women needed the vote as a ‘home-protection weapon’” (Walter 1990: 338).
For further information see:
R.R. Langham-Carter (1981) ‘Solly, Julia Frances’ in (ed) C.J. Beyers Dictionary of South African Biography Vol IV Pretoria: Human Sciences Research Council, p. 589
Ian Fletcher, Philippa Levine & Laura Mayhall (eds, 2000) Women’s Suffrage in the British Empire London: Routledge
Deborah Gaitskell (2002) “The imperial tie: Obstacle or asset for South Africa’s women suffragists before 1930?” South African Historical Journal 47: 1-23
Liz Stanley, Helen Dampier and Andrea Salter (2012, in press) “The Cultural Entrepreneur, Microhistory and the Olive Schreiner Letters” Journal of Social and Cultural History
Cheryl Walker (1979) The Women’s Suffrage Movement in South Africa Cape Town: Centre for African Studies
Cherryl Walker (1990) “The Women’s Suffrage Movement: The Politics of Gender, Race and Class” in Cherryl Walker (ed) Women and Gender in Southern Africa to 1945 Cape Town: David Philip, 313 - 345
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- Olive Schreiner BC16/Box3/Fold1/1902/36:Hanover, Sunday, Dear Mrs Solly, Thankyou very much for your congratulations, & letter. I am afraid the next general Elec...
- Olive Schreiner BC16/Box3/Fold2/1903/14:P.O. Uitkyk, Nr Fraserburg Rd, Aug 6 / 03, Dear Mrs Solly, I have never yet written to tell you how sweet I felt your kind in...
- Olive Schreiner BC16/Box3/Fold6/1907/5:Hanover, March 26th 1907, Dear Mrs Solly, Thankyou much for your letter. I have not been well enough to write or would have a...
- Olive Schreiner BC16/Box3/Fold6/1907/12:Hanover, May 7 / 07, Dear Mrs Solly, Thank you much for your letter. I asked what C.T. meant because I fancied it might mean ...
- Olive Schreiner BC16/Box3/Fold6/1907/17:Dear Mrs Solly, I will most gladly sign the paper you left with me. Shall I sign this copy or another after you have signed i...
- Olive Schreiner BC16/Box3/Fold6/1907/21:Rossyvera, Norfolk Rd, Sea Point, Sunday, Dear Mrs Solly, I did not get your letter sent to the Royal, but have just got your...
- Olive Schreiner BC16/Box3/Fold6/1907/23:Rossyvera, Norfolk Rd , Sea Point, Aug 8th 1907, Dear Mrs Solly, I was not well enough to get to the committee meeting. But I...
- Olive Schreiner BC16/Box3/Fold6/1907/28:De Aar, Oct Nov 5th 1907, Dear Mrs Solly, I enclose you a note from Mrs Pethick Lawrence which may interest you, please retur...
- Olive Schreiner BC16/Box4/Fold1/1908/18:Matjesfontein , April 6th 1908, Dear Mrs Solly, I’m so sorry I’ve not been able to answer you for such a long tim...
- Olive Schreiner BC16/Box4/Fold1/1908/26:Matjesfontein, May 6th 1908, My dear Mrs Solly, I was so very sorry I could not come to see you, I was so very very ill. I co...
- Olive Schreiner BC16/Box4/Fold1/1908/28:Matjesfontein, May the 10th 1908, Dear Mrs Solly, I have been feeling quite unhappy about that letter I sent you thinking it ...
- Olive Schreiner BC16/Box4/Fold1/1908/36:Box 24 , de Aar , 3 June 1908, Dear Mrs Solly, Do let me know how you think our meeting went off. , I enclose 1/- from Miss G...
- Olive Schreiner BC16/Box4/Fold1/1908/44:Wednesday night, Dear Mrs Solly, I had a talk with Malan this afternoon. He thinks that petition from women in all parts of t...
- Olive Schreiner BC16/Box4/Fold1/1908/45:Dear Mrs Solly, Mrs Macfadyen spent a long afternoon with me. I like her more & more the more I see of her. , She said sh...
- Olive Schreiner BC16/Box4/Fold1/1908/52:Dear Mrs Solly, Miss ?Met told me she was wiring to you this morning. Under no conditions would be possible to get up a large...
- Olive Schreiner BC16/Box4/Fold1/1908/54:Eastbergholt, Dear Mrs Solly, We had a most interesting little private meeting at Mrs Murrays yesterday with Mrs Brown to ope...
- Olive Schreiner BC16/Box4/Fold2/1909/47:Dear Mrs Solly, I wish you were here. Yes we shall come with much pleasure. Do try to be be here surely on the 1st., I am ver...
- Olive Schreiner BC16/Box4/Fold3/1910/4:Rocklands, Beach Rd, Sea Point, Dear Mrs Solly, Your letter to Anna Purcell is splendid. Magnificent. You ought to be the fir...
- Olive Schreiner BC16/Box4/Fold4/1911/11:De Aar, May 24th 1911, Dear Mrs Solly, I’m sorry but I couldn’t possibly sign those letters., I’ve never me...
- Olive Schreiner BC16/Box5/Fold2/1913/15:De Aar, April 17th 1913, Dear Mrs Solly, As I lie here in pain I so often think of you. I know that with you as with myself i...
- Olive Schreiner BC16/Box5/Fold2/1913/21:Sunday, Dear Mrs Solly, I am so glad to hear you are somewhat better & have been a few days with Anna Purcell. She is cer...
- Olive Schreiner BC16/Box7/Fold4/Mar-Dec1920/32:Oak Hall, Tramway Terminus, Wynberg, Monday, Dear Mrs Solly, Thanks so much for your letter. Things are indeed is a dark way ...
- Olive Schreiner BC16/Box7/Fold4/Mar-Dec1920/39:Oak Hall, Tramway Terminus, Wynberg, Dear Mrs Solly, What must you have thought of me for not answering your interesting lett...
- Olive Schreiner BC16/Box11/Fold1/Dated/17:Dear Mrs Solly, I’m afraid I can’t make any promise about speaking. My health is so uncertain now, & my breat...
- Olive Schreiner BC16/Box11/Fold1/Dated/18:Dear Mrs Solly, I hope you have the letter I sent through Mrs Macfadyen., I enclose another 1/-. Please send receipt & ca...
- Olive Schreiner BC16/Box11/Fold1/Dated/19:Dear Mrs Solly, I will try to find two Dutch ladies who will be willing to be vice presidents; but I couldn’t possibly ...
- Olive Schreiner BC16/Box11/Fold1/Dated/20:Rossyvera, Norfolk Rd, Sea Point, Dear Mrs Solly, We are going to have another meeting on the 27th for Mrs Brown to read her ...
- Olive Schreiner BC16/Box11/Fold1/Dated/21:Eastbergholt , Tamboer’s Kloof Rd , Saturday , Dear Mrs Solly , I wish you had been here on Thursday, the debate in the...
- Olive Schreiner BC16/Box11/Fold1/Dated/26:Dear Mrs Solly, I can’t quite understand your letter & perhaps you don’t quite understand me. I don’t m...
- Olive Schreiner BC16/Box11/Fold2/Undated/27:Dear Mrs Solly, I think your little pamphlet on ‘The Legal Side of the Purity Question’ so good. , Could not a co...
- Olive Schreiner BC16/Box11/Fold2/Undated/36:Dear Mrs Solly, Anna Purcell showed me the beautiful little notice about your mother. I sympathize so deeply with you in your...
- Olive Schreiner BC16/Box 12/Fold1/Undated/10:The Homestead, Saturday, Dear Mrs Solly,, Could you send me a wire early on Monday morning giving Mr Wilson’s address., ...
- James Mackenzie BC 1/A1.1:Dear Mrs Solly, Mrs De Villiers is quite willing to join us as Vice Pres=. I have found another splendid woman a Mrs Botha. H...
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- Olive Schreiner: Mimmie Murray 2001.24/9:De Aar, April 25th 1912, Dear Friend, Thank you for your letter. You can't think how pretty the children beautiful karross lo...
- Olive Schreiner: Mimmie Murray 2001.24/40:De Aar, July 23rd 1911, Dear Mrs Murray, I am sending you Ruth Alexander's speech at Kimberley. Please when you've read it se...
- Olive Schreiner: Mimmie Murray 2001.24/50:Somerset East , Friday , Dear Mrs Murray, I send you Minnie de Villiers letter about Lady Innes & Emily Solomon. If they ...
- Olive Schreiner: Mimmie Murray 2001.24/63:De Aar, Tuesday , Darling Friend, How sweet of you to think of me so. The reason why I have not written is that I wanted to w...
- SCCS Edited Extracts: Four groups of edited extracts from Olive Schreiner's letters can be accessed from here, made by her estranged husband Cronwr... Show/Hide Collection Letters
- Olive Schreiner: Extracts of Letters to Cronwright-Schreiner MSC 26/2.16/15:…Did I tell you the day or so after you went I went to see Mrs. Solly (in Kimberley). There were some lovely likenesses...
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- Olive Schreiner: Anna Purcell MSC 26/2.9.2:Thursday night , My darling Anna, Did you feel how I was loving you as I sat behind you at the meeting. I could have kissed y...
- Olive Schreiner: Mary Sauer MSC 26/2.11.132:Sunday, Dear Mary, I shall leave this on Saturday afternoon getting to Cape Town Sunday morning, & shall leave again by M...
- University of Cape Town, Historical Manuscripts: Manuscripts & Archives at the University of Cape Town is a leading location for accessing archival papers across many per... Show/Hide Collection Letters
- Olive Schreiner BC16/Box3/Fold1/1902/36:Hanover, Sunday, Dear Mrs Solly, Thankyou very much for your congratulations, & letter. I am afraid the next general Elec...
- Olive Schreiner BC16/Box3/Fold2/1903/14:P.O. Uitkyk, Nr Fraserburg Rd, Aug 6 / 03, Dear Mrs Solly, I have never yet written to tell you how sweet I felt your kind in...
- Olive Schreiner BC16/Box3/Fold6/1907/5:Hanover, March 26th 1907, Dear Mrs Solly, Thankyou much for your letter. I have not been well enough to write or would have a...
- Olive Schreiner BC16/Box3/Fold6/1907/12:Hanover, May 7 / 07, Dear Mrs Solly, Thank you much for your letter. I asked what C.T. meant because I fancied it might mean ...
- Olive Schreiner BC16/Box3/Fold6/1907/17:Dear Mrs Solly, I will most gladly sign the paper you left with me. Shall I sign this copy or another after you have signed i...
- Olive Schreiner BC16/Box3/Fold6/1907/19:Dear Mrs Murray, I have spoken to Mary Sauer & other women, & they all think it is so splendid that you should be Pre...
- Olive Schreiner BC16/Box3/Fold6/1907/21:Rossyvera, Norfolk Rd, Sea Point, Sunday, Dear Mrs Solly, I did not get your letter sent to the Royal, but have just got your...
- Olive Schreiner BC16/Box3/Fold6/1907/23:Rossyvera, Norfolk Rd , Sea Point, Aug 8th 1907, Dear Mrs Solly, I was not well enough to get to the committee meeting. But I...
- Olive Schreiner BC16/Box3/Fold6/1907/28:De Aar, Oct Nov 5th 1907, Dear Mrs Solly, I enclose you a note from Mrs Pethick Lawrence which may interest you, please retur...
- Olive Schreiner BC16/Box4/Fold1/1908/18:Matjesfontein , April 6th 1908, Dear Mrs Solly, I’m so sorry I’ve not been able to answer you for such a long tim...
- Olive Schreiner BC16/Box4/Fold1/1908/26:Matjesfontein, May 6th 1908, My dear Mrs Solly, I was so very sorry I could not come to see you, I was so very very ill. I co...
- Olive Schreiner BC16/Box4/Fold1/1908/28:Matjesfontein, May the 10th 1908, Dear Mrs Solly, I have been feeling quite unhappy about that letter I sent you thinking it ...
- Olive Schreiner BC16/Box4/Fold1/1908/30:Matjesfontein, May 23rd 1908, Thank you so much for your letter. It would be too delightful to take that little trip to your ...
- Olive Schreiner BC16/Box4/Fold1/1908/36:Box 24 , de Aar , 3 June 1908, Dear Mrs Solly, Do let me know how you think our meeting went off. , I enclose 1/- from Miss G...
- Olive Schreiner BC16/Box4/Fold1/1908/44:Wednesday night, Dear Mrs Solly, I had a talk with Malan this afternoon. He thinks that petition from women in all parts of t...
- Olive Schreiner BC16/Box4/Fold1/1908/45:Dear Mrs Solly, Mrs Macfadyen spent a long afternoon with me. I like her more & more the more I see of her. , She said sh...
- Olive Schreiner BC16/Box4/Fold1/1908/51:We are not going to send the petitions in this cession but next year. Save those you have filled Have you been able to see Mr...
- Olive Schreiner BC16/Box4/Fold1/1908/52:Dear Mrs Solly, Miss ?Met told me she was wiring to you this morning. Under no conditions would be possible to get up a large...
- Olive Schreiner BC16/Box4/Fold1/1908/54:Eastbergholt, Dear Mrs Solly, We had a most interesting little private meeting at Mrs Murrays yesterday with Mrs Brown to ope...
- Olive Schreiner BC16/Box4/Fold2/1909/47:Dear Mrs Solly, I wish you were here. Yes we shall come with much pleasure. Do try to be be here surely on the 1st., I am ver...
- Olive Schreiner BC16/Box4/Fold2/1909/48:Dear Anna, I am sending Mrs Macintoshes letter to me to Minnie who will send it to you & Mrs Solly to answer. , Do write ...
- Olive Schreiner BC16/Box4/Fold3/1910/4:Rocklands, Beach Rd, Sea Point, Dear Mrs Solly, Your letter to Anna Purcell is splendid. Magnificent. You ought to be the fir...
- Olive Schreiner BC16/Box4/Fold4/1911/11:De Aar, May 24th 1911, Dear Mrs Solly, I’m sorry but I couldn’t possibly sign those letters., I’ve never me...
- Olive Schreiner BC16/Box5/Fold2/1913/15:De Aar, April 17th 1913, Dear Mrs Solly, As I lie here in pain I so often think of you. I know that with you as with myself i...
- Olive Schreiner BC16/Box5/Fold2/1913/21:Sunday, Dear Mrs Solly, I am so glad to hear you are somewhat better & have been a few days with Anna Purcell. She is cer...
- Olive Schreiner BC16/Box5/Fold2/1913/41:Private, Dear Laddie, Thanks for letter much dear - No I don’t mean to go with Miss Hobhouse. If she I see she wants to...
- Olive Schreiner BC16/Box5/Fold2/1913/47:Private, Dear Laddie, I am sorry about the hurried note I wrote you the other day, as it is quite unlikely you will meet Miss...
- Olive Schreiner BC16/Box7/Fold4/Mar-Dec1920/32:Oak Hall, Tramway Terminus, Wynberg, Monday, Dear Mrs Solly, Thanks so much for your letter. Things are indeed is a dark way ...
- Olive Schreiner BC16/Box7/Fold4/Mar-Dec1920/39:Oak Hall, Tramway Terminus, Wynberg, Dear Mrs Solly, What must you have thought of me for not answering your interesting lett...
- Olive Schreiner BC16/Box11/Fold1/Dated/17:Dear Mrs Solly, I’m afraid I can’t make any promise about speaking. My health is so uncertain now, & my breat...
- Olive Schreiner BC16/Box11/Fold1/Dated/18:Dear Mrs Solly, I hope you have the letter I sent through Mrs Macfadyen., I enclose another 1/-. Please send receipt & ca...
- Olive Schreiner BC16/Box11/Fold1/Dated/19:Dear Mrs Solly, I will try to find two Dutch ladies who will be willing to be vice presidents; but I couldn’t possibly ...
- Olive Schreiner BC16/Box11/Fold1/Dated/20:Rossyvera, Norfolk Rd, Sea Point, Dear Mrs Solly, We are going to have another meeting on the 27th for Mrs Brown to read her ...
- Olive Schreiner BC16/Box11/Fold1/Dated/21:Eastbergholt , Tamboer’s Kloof Rd , Saturday , Dear Mrs Solly , I wish you had been here on Thursday, the debate in the...
- Olive Schreiner BC16/Box11/Fold1/Dated/26:Dear Mrs Solly, I can’t quite understand your letter & perhaps you don’t quite understand me. I don’t m...
- Olive Schreiner BC16/Box11/Fold1/Dated/27:Tuesd, Wednesday morning, My darling Anna, I’ve not been out any where or written a letter or done anything since my sp...
- Olive Schreiner BC16/Box11/Fold2/Undated/27:Dear Mrs Solly, I think your little pamphlet on ‘The Legal Side of the Purity Question’ so good. , Could not a co...
- Olive Schreiner BC16/Box11/Fold2/Undated/36:Dear Mrs Solly, Anna Purcell showed me the beautiful little notice about your mother. I sympathize so deeply with you in your...
- Olive Schreiner BC16/Box 12/Fold1/Undated/10:The Homestead, Saturday, Dear Mrs Solly,, Could you send me a wire early on Monday morning giving Mr Wilson’s address., ...
- James Mackenzie BC 1/A1.1:Dear Mrs Solly, Mrs De Villiers is quite willing to join us as Vice Pres=. I have found another splendid woman a Mrs Botha. H...