Olive Schreiner Letters Online

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Archive	University College London Library, Special Collections, UCL, London
Epistolary Type	Letter
Letter Date	21 December 1884
Address From	Alexandra House, Denmark Place, Hastings, East Sussex
Address To
Who To	Elisabeth Cobb nee Sharpe
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1:  Alexandra House
2:  Denmark Place
3:  Hastings
4:  Dec 21 / 84
5: 
6:  My dear Mrs Cobb
7: 
8:  Thank you for Matthew Arnold’s speech: it interested me very much.
9: 
10:  I shall be very glad to know how it is that W.H. Smith got his
11:  monopoly It is a great injustice But the real evil, it seems to me,
12:  lies deeper.
13: 
14:  When the writer refuses to be lead by the public, & labours over his
15:  least picture with the same implacable faithfulness to nature that the
16:  man of science has to show before he reaches any truth; when he
17:  forgets the circulating libraries & the publishers, & the paying time
18:  & works as though he & his work were alone in the world, at last, in
19:  the long long run, the public must follow him, even two old ladies in
20:  the country. The two old ladies are so strong because writers are so
21:  faithless; they walk with one eye on thuth, & one eye on society & the
22:  publishers returns. Neverthe-less the harm that a man like W H Smith
23:  can do is very great; the writer may starve before the long long run
24:  comes, though ^of course that doesn’t make any difference in his duty.^
25: 
26:  Thank you much for your letter. I shall like to come & see you, & hope
27:  I shall be able to come up to London in February.
28: 
29:  Some friends of mine have been writing to me about a woman’s weekly
30:  paper or a monthly review which they would like to see started on a
31:  rather large scale. I cannot say I feel much sympathy with such a plan;
32:  do you? The disease from which we are suffering, is the
33:  classification of men the human race according to the sexual
34:  difference which is not a sound basis for classification in any but
35:  purely sexual matters. We are human beings in the first place men &
36:  women in the second. We want the wall of separation between the sexes
37:  two halves of the human race done away with not made higher. Don’t
38:  you sometimes feel that workers on the woman’s side make as great a
39:  mistake, as men have made on the other in this matter.
40: 
41:  I hope you are feeling a little stronger now. You looked so weak the
42:  last time I saw you.
43: 
44:  Yours very sincerely,
45:  Olive Schreiner
46: 
47:  I hope your sister is better. After Friday my address will be 4
48:  Robertson Terrace.
49: 

Notation
Matthew Arnold gave a number of lectures during an 1883 US tour, including on literature and science, Emerson, number, and literature and dogma. The 'speech' sent to Schreiner is likely to be: Matthew Arnold (1884) 'Numbers; or, the Majority and the Remnant.' Nineteenth Century 15 April 1884, 669-85. The 'friends writing to me about a women's weekly paper' is likely to refer to the Women's Penny Paper.

Letter Reference	View Elisabeth Cobb 840/1/2
Archive	University College London Library, Special Collections, UCL, London
Epistolary Type	Letter
Letter Date	9 January 1885
Address From	4 Robertson Terrace, Hastings, East Sussex
Address To
Who To	Elisabeth Cobb nee Sharpe
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1:  4 Robertson Ter
2:  Hastings
3:  Jan 9 / 85
4: 
5:  Dear Mrs Cobb
6: 
7:  Thankyou very much for for Mr Pearson’s lecture. It would be
8:  difficult for me to tell you how much I liked it. Except in Ibsen’s
9:  writings I have never met what I hold to be the true view of the woman
10:  question. It is most gloriously expressed in Mr Pearson’s essay. I
11:  don’t think he has any right to keep it unpublished. As to
12:  crude-ness, there is something in the almost colloquial freedom of the
13:  style, that I think adds to the effect, & any attempt to express the
14:  ideas more measuredly might spoil the freshness.
15: 
16:  I have a great deal I would like to say, but I am under the doctor’s
17:  orders not to write at all for a few days. I only write now because I
18:  want to know if before I return it I may send that lecture to my
19:  friend Mrs Walters I know she will take great care of it, but please
20:  don’t say I can if you would rather not. Can’t you get Mr Pearson
21:  to publish it? Has he written anything else on the woman question?
22: 
23:  Miss Müller has been down here for a little while & I have seen her
24:  every day. I think I have made a little impression on her, but she
25:  still looks upon men as "played out." It seems to me that most of
26:  these workers in the woman cause are like workmen carrying on stones
27:  for a builder of whose plan they have no conception. They think they
28:  are building a little room for themselves, & in the end it is a great
29:  hall into which all the world may come. I like so much what you told
30:  me about your Xmas. Thankyou for your letter. I think that by knowing
31:  where to ?save oneself one sometimes adds immensely to one’s working
32:  powers.
33: 
34:  I have glanced at Rhys David’s & see I shall like it very much. Have
35:  you read the first part of "Ghosts"? You must not judge of the whole
36:  by that.
37: 
38:  Yours sincerely
39:  Olive Schreiner
40: 
41: 
42: 

Notation
Pearson's lecture on Hamerling was given at Cambridge for a conference on 'Moral teachers of the present day' on 30 April 1885, and he had given a manuscript copy to Elisabeth Cobb. See also Robert Hamerling (1882) Amor und Psyche Leipzig: n.p. The David Rhys David publication referred to cannot be established, but Schreiner was very interested in the writings by Rhys David and his wife on Buddhism. 'Ghosts' is: Henrik Ibsen (1881) Ghosts (trans. Henrietta Frances Lord) London: Griffith, Farran & Co.

Letter Reference	View Elisabeth Cobb 840/1/3
Archive	University College London Library, Special Collections, UCL, London
Epistolary Type	Letter
Letter Date	19 January 1885
Address From	4 Robertson Terrace, Hastings, East Sussex
Address To
Who To	Elisabeth Cobb nee Sharpe
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1:  4 Robertson Terrace
2:  Hastings
3:  Jan 19th 1885
4: 
5: 
6:  My dear Mrs Cobb
7: 
8:  Thank you very much for your letters. I think I quite understand what
9:  you said about that lecture. I think that the effect that friend has
10:  upon friend is very often, not that they give any new idea, but that
11:  they call into activity the ideas that are latent in their mind.
12:  Thanks for letting me send the MS to Mrs Walters. I send the P.C. she
13:  has just sent. I let you know what she says in her long letter. Of all
14:  my women friends she is the one I feel nearest to me. There are other
15:  people I love more but she & Henry Ellis always seem like parts of my
16:  own nature living away from me. They are the only people for whom I
17:  have that kind of feeling. Have you ever had it for anyone I wonder.
18:  It is such a restful kind of friendship. You know they can’t go away
19:  from you because it’s what you naturally are & what they naturally
20:  are that binds you.
21: 
22:  I hope you are better now. I am worse. I cannot leave my room.
23:  Sometimes it comforts one so to think what little things we
24:  humanbeings are. It doesn’t matter about one’s work after all,
25:  someone else will do it. That makes one able to be so quiet.
26: 
27:  I get plenty of stamps every week, & shall like to send some.
28: 
29:  Yes, it is nice that men & women are beginning to grow nearer to
30:  eachother. The old state of affairs seems to me more & more just like
31:  a disease.
32: 
33:  I hope you have got the M.S. safely. Couldn’t you get Mr Pearson to
34:  publish it merely for private circulation? I must write & learn about
35:  "Ghosts."
36: 
37:  Very sincerely yours
38:  Olive Schreiner
39: 
40:  Please excuse want of clearness every thing is very hazy to me.
41: 

Notation
The lecture on Hamerling by Pearson was given at Cambridge for a conference on 'Moral teachers of the present day' on 30 April 1885, and he had given a manuscript copy to Elisabeth Cobb. See also Robert Hamerling (1882) Amor und Psyche Leipzig: n.p. On 'Ghosts', see Henrik Ibsen (1881) Ghosts (trans. Henrietta Frances Lord) London: Griffith, Farran & Co.

Letter Reference	View Elisabeth Cobb 840/1/4
Archive	University College London Library, Special Collections, UCL, London
Epistolary Type	Letter
Letter Date	12 February 1885
Address From	19 Charlotte Street, Westminster, London
Address To
Who To	Elisabeth Cobb nee Sharpe
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1:  19 Charlotte St
2:  Feb 12 / 85.
3: 
4:  My dear Mrs Cobb
5: 
6:  I am going to ask Miss Lord to come on Thursday afternoon. I think you
7:  said that would suit you better than Wednesday. I thought after you
8:  had left that perhaps if I had begged I might have been able to get
9:  you to stay the evening, & then we should have had time for a quiet
10:  talk. There are so many things I should like us to talk over.
11: 
12:  I do hope you will be able to come even if Miss Lord can’t. Please
13:  remind me that there is a question I want to ask you when you come.
14:  It’s about a little half mental half physical fact with regard to
15:  which I should like to have other people’s experience. I often think
16:  that a thing quite as necessary as that ^women &^ men should understand
17:  & know more of eachother is that women should know really & understand
18:  more of one another, & each woman not be so much shut up to
19:  generalising from her own single experience. When you try to argue
20:  with men about many things they will turn round & say, ‘Ah yes, that
21:  is all very well, but you are speaking for yourself most women do not
22:  feel or think so,’ &c. And one doesn’t always know what to reply,
23:  does one?
24: 
25:  Good bye,
26:  Olive Schreiner
27: 
28:  If Mr Pearson would care to come with you to meet Miss Lord I should
29:  be glad to see him.
30: 

Letter Reference	View Elisabeth Cobb 840/1/5
Archive	University College London Library, Special Collections, UCL, London
Epistolary Type	Letter
Letter Date	25 March 1885
Address From	Hastings, East Sussex
Address To
Who To	Elisabeth Cobb nee Sharpe
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1:  Hastings
2:  March 25 / 85
3: 
4:  Dear Mrs Cobb
5: 
6:  Miss Müller has written to ask me if you would let her see Karl
7:  Pearson’s lecture. Her address if you care to send it ^is^
8:  58 Cadogan Pl
9:  W.
10: 
11:  The letter of Mrs Walters which I enclose gives very exactly my
12:  feeling with regard to love. When I have time I want to write more to
13:  you on the subject.
14: 
15:  I have asked someone else the question that I asked you, & they have
16:  given me the same reply. Why I feel the matter of importance is
17:  because it bears indirectly on the all important question, "Ought
18:  there to be two moral standards, one for man, one for woman?" My own
19:  feeling is very strongly that there ought not. But this can only be
20:  proved or disproved, by showing how like or unlike, the natures of men
21:  & women are, especially on the sexual side. Every thing I learn, every
22:  deeper insight I gain into human nature shows me that the difference
23:  is small, the resemblance great. But I should like to know as well as
24:  to feel. I think you are very right in what you said in your last
25:  letter. ^with regard to the frequency of entercourse between men & women^
26:  Putting the physical question quite aside, it seems to me too
27:  important, too serious, &, where men & women love eachother, too
28:  beautiful ^a thing^ to be made common. Physically speaking I am quite
29:  unreadable sure you are right.
30: 
31:  I hope you have found some suitable women for the club, & I hope you
32:  are not tiring yourself too much.
33: 
34:  Olive Schreiner
35: 
36:  Do you perhaps know of any young man who would do what Mrs Walters
37:  wants?
38: 

Notation
Karl Pearson's lecture was on the poet Hamerling, given at Cambridge for a conference on 'Moral teachers of the present day' on 30 April 1885, and he had given a manuscript copy to Elisabeth Cobb. See also Robert Hamerling (1882) Amor und Psyche Leipzig: n.p.

Letter Reference	View Elisabeth Cobb 840/1/6
Archive	University College London Library, Special Collections, UCL, London
Epistolary Type	Letter
Letter Date	April 1885
Address From	4 Robertson Terrace, Hastings, East Sussex
Address To
Who To	Elisabeth Cobb nee Sharpe
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1:  4 Robertson Terrace
2:  April
3: 
4:  My dear Mrs Cobb
5: 
6:  Thank you for your letter. Will you please send me another copy of
7:  that pam. on "Socialism." I want to send it to a very interesting man
8:  I am writing to. He is a Scotsman lives at Carlisle. His father was a
9:  gentleman’s gardener, & he himself was a railway clerk for a long
10:  time, & now lives by selling coals on commission. He is entirely a
11:  self-educated man, but very intellectual & very interesting He is a
12:  very earnest socialist of the Carpenter type. I don’t know any one
13:  who has written to me that I feel so unreadable interested in.
14: 
15:  About Edith Simcox. Havelock Ellis wrote to her & sent her a copy of
16:  the pamphlet. She didn’t like it at all.
17: 
18:  How goes it with the club? A delightful woman came to see me the other
19:  day, do you know anything of her, a Miss Marks, a young Jewess lives
20:  with Madame Bodichon? I should think she would be a splendid woman for
21:  such a club, but of course I don’t know enough of her yet to speak
22:  with certainty She is one of the most fascinating little specimens of
23:  humanity I have yet seen, a kind of emotional Miss Müller. She has I
24:  believe made some valuable little mathematical invention of some kind
25:  She is going to be married next month. Her little flushed face looked
26:  so lovely when she was telling me about it. One can’t help laughing
27:  secretly at the thought of those wiseacres who imagine that
28:  cultivation can kill out a woman’s emotional nature!
29: 
30:  Yes, how funny that you should hear of Mrs Walters again. I wish you
31:  knew her personally. I don’t think I am in any way blinkered in
32:  thinking hers such a rare & beautiful nature, one that unfolds as you
33:  get nearer to it.
34: 
35:  We have had such a glorious day here. The sea has been all shades of
36:  blue. It made one happy to look at it. I think I shall be coming up to
37:  town the week after next. Shall try to get rooms at Hampstead. I hope
38:  the spring is making you feel stronger.
39: 
40:  Ever sincerely yours
41:  Olive Schreiner
42: 
43:  Sorry to trouble you about the pamphlet but have forgotten the
44:  publisher.
45: 
46: 
47: 

Notation
The 'pam. on socialism' refers to Karl Pearson's 'Sex and Socialism', which was published in To-Day (1887) and re-published in Karl Pearson (1888) The Ethic of Freethought London: T. Fisher Unwin.

Letter Reference	View Elisabeth Cobb 840/1/7
Archive	University College London Library, Special Collections, UCL, London
Epistolary Type	Letter
Letter Date	Sunday 14 June 1885
Address From	41 Upper Baker Street, Marylebone, London
Address To
Who To	Elisabeth Cobb nee Sharpe
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1:  Sunday
2: 
3:  Dear Mrs Cobb
4: 
5:  I return the books. Both interested me much. They are both young, but
6:  they have that noble power & originality that is in all Karl Pearson
7:  writes, something that no age or experience can give.
8: 
9:  I enclose a vol. of Marsten’s poems for you to look at, but almost
10:  doubt whether you will care for them. Moore has been to see me & is
11:  coming again tomorrow. I like him. I don’t know whether you will
12:  care for the "Mummer’s Wife". It is science, & not poetry, & not
13:  philosophy. If you care for Darwin’s "Variations of plants & animals
14:  under domestication" you will probably like it, if not not. I was
15:  going to spend yesterday with Miss Müller at Pengbourne, a number of
16:  interesting women were to be there, but I was prevented by visitors.
17: 
18:  I go to Desborough on Sat. & return on Monday. I should so like you to
19:  meet Mrs Walters. I must manage it when they come to live at Bedford.
20:  But perhaps you may not think her so wonderful as I have made out,
21:  just at first.
22: 
23:  I hope you are well & happy.
24: 
25:  Yours affecty
26:  Olive Schreiner
27: 
28: 
29: 

Notation
The Marston poems referred to are: Philip Marston (1883) Wind-Voices London: E. Stock. The other book mentioned is: George Moore (1885) A Mummer’s Wife London: Vizatelly & Co.

Letter Reference	View Karl Pearson 840/4/1/1-2
Archive	University College London Library, Special Collections, UCL, London
Epistolary Type	Letter
Letter Date	Wednesday 30 June 1885
Address From	41 Upper Baker Street, Westminster, London
Address To	2 Harcourt Buildings, Temple, London
Who To	Karl Pearson
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1:  41 Upper Baker St
2:  Wednesday
3: 
4:  My dear Mr Pearson
5: 
6:  If possible I shall be there on the 9th. My life is such a whirl, (Did
7:  you ever try for a little while to slip between surfaces with out
8:  piercing them?) that I am not sure I shall have time for the paper. If
9:  you can wait a day or two till I am settled in my new quarters I will
10:  write & let you know. But if there is any other woman you think would
11:  do it well, you had best write to her. If I did write I should write
12:  quite frankly. More & more I see clearly that in our minds, & in our
13:  intercourse with our fellow men there should be no corner of which we
14:  say, "Here the light of day must not come."
15: 
16:  Yours very sincerely
17:  Olive Schreiner
18: 
19: 
20: 
21: 

Letter Reference	View Karl Pearson 840/4/1/3-4
Archive	University College London Library, Special Collections, UCL, London
Epistolary Type	Letter
Letter Date	30 June 1885
Address From	41 Upper Baker Street, Westminster, London
Address To
Who To	Karl Pearson
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1:  My dear Mr Pearson
2: 
3:  Just when I’d posted my note yours came.
4: 
5:  The 9th will suit me well if I am still in Town; but you must not
6:  count upon me as a speaker, I cannot speak to more than one person at
7:  a time.
8: 
9:  I thought you would have heard about Miss Müller from Mrs Cobb or
10:  should have written sooner. It would be very nice if you were to come
11:  across her abroad.
12: 
13:  Yours sincerely
14:  Olive Schreiner
15: 
16: 
17: 
18: 

Letter Reference	View Karl Pearson 840/4/1/5
Archive	University College London Library, Special Collections, UCL, London
Epistolary Type	Letter
Letter Date	Saturday 4 July 1885
Address From	9 Blandford Square, Paddington, London
Address To
Who To	Karl Pearson
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1:  9 Blandford Square
2:  Saturday
3: 
4:  My dear Mr Pearson
5: 
6:  I shall not have a minute to write the short sketch. I think yours
7:  will be quite enough. If I possibly can I will be there on Thursday.
8: 
9:  Yours sincerely
10:  Olive Schreiner
11: 

Letter Reference	View Karl Pearson 840/4/1/8-10
Archive	University College London Library, Special Collections, UCL, London
Epistolary Type	Letter
Letter Date	Sunday 12 July 1885
Address From	9 Blandford Square, Paddington, London
Address To
Who To	Karl Pearson
Other Versions	Rive 1987: 65

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1:  9 Blandford Sq
2:  Sunday.
3: 
4:  Dear Mr Pearson
5: 
6:  Thursday or Wednesday will suit me, & the evening as well as the
7:  aftenoon. I am my own mistress now. I have a quiet room here in which
8:  we could meet, but perhaps the Temple would be more central for us all.
9:  Miss Sharp must decide, but please let me know at once, on account of
10:  other engagements. I have thought of one great deficiency in your
11:  paper, but perhaps it was intentional. As far as it went it I was very
12:  complete, but it left out one whole field, to me, ^personally^ the most
13:  important one,
14: 
15:  I hope you will have your paper printed.
16: 
17:  Yours sincerely,
18:  Olive Schreiner
19: 
20:  The long climb would be no draw back.
21: 
22: 
23: 

Notation
The paper referred to is Pearson's 'The Woman's Question', read at the first meeting of the Men and Women's Club in July 1885. Rive's (1987) version omits part of the letter and is also in a number of respects incorrect.

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Epistolary Type	Letter
Letter Date	10 July 1885
Address From	9 Blandford Square, Paddington, London
Address To
Who To	Karl Pearson
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1:  Dear Mr Pearson
2: 
3:  So very sorry I did not see you yesterday morning Have written to tell
4:  Miss Sharpe I am coming on Friday. Are we to meet there? Shall keep
5:  Thursday open till I hear from you.
6: 
7:  The omission was "Man." Your whole paper reads as though the object of
8:  the club were to dis-cuss woman, her objects, her needs, her mental &
9:  physical nature, & man only in as far as he throws light upon her
10:  question. This is entirely wrong.
11: 
12:  I have no doubt that the motive of the Pall Mall is mean.* God
13:  sometimes uses the devil for his own purposes; even the press.
14: 
15:  Yours very truly,
16:  Olive Schreiner
17: 
18:  I think you certainly ought to have that paper** printed. Please do so,
19:  it will be very useful.
20: 
21:  ^I think you might best add the note mentioning the omission, if you
22:  think it one.^
23: 
24: 
25: 

Notation
The 'that paper' referred to is Pearson's 'The Woman's Question', read at the first meeting of the Men and Women's Club in July 1885.

Letter Reference	View Karl Pearson 840/4/1/21-26
Archive	University College London Library, Special Collections, UCL, London
Epistolary Type	Letter
Letter Date	Sunday 19 July 1885
Address From	9 Blandford Square, Paddington, London
Address To
Who To	Karl Pearson
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1:  Sunday
2: 
3:  My dear Mr Pearson
4: 
5:  Thankyou very much for your letter. When I came home I carried on our
6:  conversation for an hour or more walking up & down my room. Yes, I
7:  knew you felt these things, but perhaps not in the way a woman can
8:  feel them.
9: 
10:  Sometimes when I have been walking in Gray’s Inn Rd & seen one of
11:  those terrible old women that are so common there, the sense of
12:  agonised oneness with her that I have felt, that she was myself only
13:  under different circumstances, has stricken me almost mad. Do you
14:  think any man could feel so? I feel so about all these poor women.
15: 
16:  //I agree with you that the Criminal Law Amendment Act, will not touch
17:  the matter, there will be not one prostitute in England less at the
18:  end of the year because of it, nor because of any law that could be
19:  passed. What then has the Pall Mall done? - Simply this - it may have
20:  warned a few sl girls, & it may have roused a few thousand women from
21:  their long selfish sleep ^on sexual matters^; if it has done this it
22:  will not be a small thing; it’s effects will tell after many days. I
23:  do not know if you will at all sympathize with me, but my feeling is
24:  not one of hatred to the men who do these things. One is irresistibly
25:  driven back to look at the women who bore these men, & in whose hand
26:  they lay for the first twelve or fourteen years their life. What have
27:  these women done for them; upon the most solemn, the most beautiful,
28:  the most important and the life & death giving side of their natures,
29:  how have they ^been^ instructed? Unreadable Of course you may say that
30:  these women were themselves the slaves of men, where were they to gain
31:  the physical, the intellectual ^& the moral^ knowledge, which would
32:  enable them to teach their sons the beauty importance of the sexual
33:  sides of their natures. This is quite true; & so we come back to the
34:  old point, that we can^not^ hate any one. Man injures woman & woman
35:  injures man. It is not a case for crying out against individuals ^or
36:  against sexes,^ but simply for changing a whole system. When we have
37:  pure strong mothers able see the beauty & importance of the sexual
38:  side of life, we will have pure strong men able to guide themselves
39:  nobly. Before that day comes women will have to have to have made
40:  themselves absolutely free of material dependence on man, their
41:  reasons & their wills will have had to be cultivated. It seems a long
42:  way off, but I always feel that it must come at last & I do think the
43:  Pall Mall letters have been wise if they have awakened only a thousand
44:  women.
45: 
46:  I saw Dr Donkin yesterday. He is going abroad in August ^September^ &
47:  October, but will, I think, like to read us a paper in November; but
48:  he would like to know more about our particular standpoint. I have
49:  sent him your paper, & told him about Mr Parker.
50: 
51:  Thank you for the copies. I should like a few more, as I want to send
52:  to Miss Lord, Roden Noel &c all people who are interested in our
53:  subjects.
54: 
55:  Yours very sincerely,
56:  Olive Schreiner
57: 
58:  I hope you be able to read my handwriting I am writing very hurriedly,
59:  as I fear you may be leaving for Germany tomorrow. I hope you will
60:  have a restful time there. Don’t you think Mr Parker might give us
61:  his historical paper in October instead of November.
62: 
63: 
64: 

Notation
'Your paper' refers to Pearson's 'The Woman's Question', read at the first meeting of the Men and Women's Club in July 1885. R.J. Parker's 'Sexual Relations among the Greeks of the Periclean Era' was read at the February 1886 meeting of the Men and Women's Club. The Pall Mall Gazette comment refers to its editor W.T. Stead's four articles under the heading of 'The Maiden Tribute of Modern Babylon' on prostitution and the age of consent, published in the paper on 6, 7, 8 and 9 July 1885. Rive's (1987) version omits part of this letter and is also in a number of respects incorrect.

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Epistolary Type	Letter
Letter Date	Tuesday 15 September 1885
Address From	16 Portsea Place, Westminster, London
Address To
Who To	Karl Pearson
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1:  16 Portsea Place
2:  Tuesday night
3: 
4:  My dear Mr Pearson
5: 
6:  I am almost always at home in the evening, but if you could send me a
7:  card at any time you would be sure to find me in. I shall be at home
8:  tomorrow afternoon & evening, but shall have many visitors in the
9:  afternoon till six, so we could not well talk.
10: 
11:  I will write to arrange about the meeting with Miss Müller next week.
12: 
13:  You
14:  Visitors have come. Have much I wish to speak of to you.
15: 
16:  O.S.
17: 
18: 
19: 

Letter Reference	View Karl Pearson 840/4/1/17-20
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Epistolary Type	Letter
Letter Date	Tuesday 15 September 1885
Address From	16 Portsea Place, Westminster, London
Address To
Who To	Karl Pearson
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1:  16 Portsea Place
2:  Connaught Sq
3:  W.
4:  Tuesday
5: 
6:  My dear Mr Pearson
7: 
8:  Miss Müller (to whom I sent your paper) is very anxious to meet you.
9:  She has written to ask me to ask you if you will go up the river on
10:  Sunday. She has a boat, & goes every Sunday. Generally starts about
11:  half past 11. I am sure you will like her. I shall go too if I am able.
12:  There seems to have been some mistake, no one wrote to ask her to
13:  write a paper for December. I understand at that meeting that you were
14:  going to, so did not write myself.
15: 
16:  She is very busy working at it ^the paper^ now. Who is to read the
17:  November Paper? I should think Mr Parker’s Historical Paper would
18:  come well then. It would be beginning at the beginning. My paper
19:  isn’t written yet, but it’s going to be soon.
20: 
21:  I shall call it "False Classification". I envy you your long quiet
22:  rest out of the world.
23: 
24:  Yours very sincerely
25:  Olive Schreiner
26: 
27:  If you can’t go on Sunday – but I hope you will be able to –
28:  perhaps you would call on her some day, her address is 33 Brompton Sq
29: 
30: 
31: 

Notation
The papers referred to are Karl Pearson's 'The Woman's Question' read at the first meeting of the Men and Women's Club in July 1885, and Henrietta Muller's 'The Other Side of the Question' read at its October 1885 meeting. R.J. Parker's 'Sexual Relations among the Greeks of the Periclean Era' was read at the February 1886 meeting.

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Epistolary Type	Letter
Letter Date	23 September 1885
Address From	16 Portsea Place, Westminster, London
Address To
Who To	Karl Pearson
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1:  16 Portsea Place
2:  Connaught Sq
3:  Sep 23 / 85
4: 
5:  My dear Mr Pearson
6: 
7:  Thankyou very much for your letter. It was not any one of the facts
8:  but some of your deductions from them that seemed to me hastily set
9:  down! To explain just what I mean would take a small book. Would you
10:  been able to come in tomorrow evening or any other time. I want to ask
11:  you about the last part of my paper, which bears on the last part of
12:  your letter.
13: 
14:  Yours very sincerely
15:  Olive Schreiner
16: 
17:  The extract you sent me has made me feel I wouldn’t like to read my
18:  paper at the club at all. I felt so before but more so now. The Editor
19:  of the Fortnightly says he will be glad to publish it unreadable in
20:  the Review. Then one knows one speaks to the great public of
21:  intellectual men, so pure, at least, that they can look at the great
22:  facts that underlie human life, & see that they are beautiful &
23:  wonderful. Please don’t repeat this to anyone.
24: 
25: 

Notation
Schreiner does not seem to have published anything in the Fortnightly Review around the time this letter was written, and the particular 'paper' she was referring to cannot be established but seems to have been intended for the Men and Women's Club.

Letter Reference	View Karl Pearson 840/4/1/29-30
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Epistolary Type	Letter
Letter Date	Thursday 24 September 1885
Address From	16 Portsea Place, Westminster, London
Address To
Who To	Karl Pearson
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1:  Thursday night
2: 
3:  My dear Mr Pearson
4: 
5:  I am afraid you thought I was very rude to you this evening.
6: 
7:  I’ve had a good deal of trouble lately which has somewhat unstrung
8:  me. That must be my only excuse
9: 
10:  Yours sincerely
11:  Olive Schreiner
12: 
13: 
14: 

Letter Reference	View Karl Pearson 840/4/1/31-34
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Epistolary Type	Letter
Letter Date	Saturday 26 September 1885
Address From	16 Portsea Place, Westminster, London
Address To
Who To	Karl Pearson
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1:  Saturday
2: 
3:  My dear Mr Pearson
4: 
5:  Miss Sharp has just left me. We have had a delightful talk. I have
6:  seldom spoken to any one whose mind seems so open & clear on these
7:  subjects; I am sure no man or woman had fear that she would regard
8:  what they said from a narrow stand point. She seems to have (a rare
9:  quality in a woman owing to her narrower life!) a very impartial mind.
10:  I am so glad she came. She I think would be able to write us a paper,
11:  probably a better one than mine. I know I can write stories, but I
12:  don’t think I write papers well. The Doctor has ordered me not even
13:  to rea write letters for a week so, I am going to do nothing but
14:  unreadable ^look^ for dissipation. When you have an hour to spare I
15:  shall be ^very^ glad to see ^you &^ tell you what I think of Mary Wols. I
16:  shall read the book tomorrow morning.
17: 
18:  I go to see the Socialist in the afternoon & perhaps perhaps I may see
19:  you there. Dr Donkin says Mr Parker has asked him to come as a visitor
20:  to the next meeting; I should like my friend friend Henry Ellis to
21:  come. Shall send the name to Miss Sharp.
22: 
23:  Yours very sincerely
24:  Olive Schreiner
25:  ^
26:  I am reading Mr Parker’s notes on your paper & am much interested.
27: 
28:  Thankyou for your note. I think Mrs Wilson’s letter one of the most
29:  interesting I ever read. Would you mind my reading some of the last
30:  part to Dr Donkin? I won’t till I hear from you.^
31: 
32:  ^Any afternoon next week I shall be in in the evening I am going to
33:  theatres.^
34: 
35: 
36: 

Notation
'Mary Wols' refers to Mary Wollstonecraft (1792) A Vindication of the Rights of Woman London: J. Johnson.

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Epistolary Type	Letter
Letter Date	Friday 2 October 1885
Address From	16 Portsea Place, Westminster, London
Address To
Who To	Karl Pearson
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1:  Friday
2: 
3:  My dear Mr Pearson
4: 
5:  The two last leave 3 & 4 f express most exactly my own feelings. I
6:  also sympathize most strongly with what you say as to f child-getting
7:  as the end of sexual relationship. What you say about attraction I do
8:  not at all agree with. Please when next you come remind me of it, I
9:  want to give you my theory & see what you think of it. Dr Donkin came
10:  this morning but brought another man with him so I couldn’t talk
11:  about the club. I am now expecting Miss Müller. I had a letter from
12:  her this morning saying her paper was quite ready. It is a great
13:  pleasure to me to talk to you, & I shall be glad to see you any
14:  evening if you will drop me a card in the morning.
15: 
16:  O.S.
17: 
18:  I carried on our conversation for hours after you went, mentally.
19: 
20: 
21: 

Notation
The things Schreiner agrees and disagrees with refers to Pearson's 'The Woman's Question', read at the first meeting of the Men and Women's Club in July 1885. Henrietta Muller's response, 'The Other Side of the Question', was read at the October 1885 meeting.

Letter Reference	View Karl Pearson 840/4/1/37-38
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Epistolary Type	Letter
Letter Date	Tuesday 6 October 1885
Address From	16 Portsea Place, Westminster, London
Address To
Who To	Karl Pearson
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1:  Tuesday
2: 
3:  My dear Mr Pearson
4: 
5:  Müller & I & a Mr Martin & perhaps Dr Donkin are going up the river
6:  in her boat next Sunday. We shall be so glad if you will come too. I
7:  write now as you may be making other arrangements. Please let me have
8:  a card in reply at once. Have you read Symonds’s "Stella Maris" in
9:  his last volume of poetry the "Vagahunduli Libellus." If you have
10:  please tell me what you think of it: to me it is so wonderful.
11: 
12:  O.S.
13: 
14:  P.S. Miss Müller has just been. She fears it may rain on Sunday or be
15:  cold, so want us all to come to lunch at half past one at 86 Portland
16:  Place on Sunday. Will you be able to come I am writing to ask Mr
17:  Thicknesse also.
18: 
19:  ^Mrs Cobb is coming to see me on Thursday afternoon & stay till 9
20:  o’clock. ^
21: 
22:  Thanks for book.
23: 
24: 
25: 

Notation
The book referred to is: John Addington Symonds (1884) Vagabunduli Libellus London: Kegan Paul & Co.

Letter Reference	View Karl Pearson 840/4/1/39-40
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Epistolary Type	Letter
Letter Date	7 October 1885
Address From	16 Portsea Place, Westminster, London
Address To
Who To	Karl Pearson
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1:  We have just given up the river because we feared it would be wet &
2:  cold on Sunday. Did I give you the address 86 Portland Place Nothing I
3:  have read by a man has made me feel so near to man as man as reading
4:  the Stella Maris. It is a series of sonnet in which is told the story
5:  of a man of high intellect who love a woman merely for physical beauty,
6:  with strong passion; & of the bitterness that follows. It is the old
7:  old story of the immortal soul trying to feed itself with earth, but
8:  it is told here in a way that comes nearer to me than any where else.
9: 
10:  N I should like to see the miniatures. The third of the four great
11:  truths is one that comes home to me very much now, but in a healthy
12:  mind it ought to be ^followed by the fourth.^
13: 
14:  ^I mentioned Mrs Cobbs coming because I thought perhaps you might like
15:  to come in about eight or half past in the evening She stays till 9.30.
16:  It would be nice to have a talk together.^
17: 
18:  O.S.
19: 
20: 
21: 

Notation
'Stella Maris' is a poem by Symonds which is in: John Addington Symonds (1884) Vagabunduli Libellus London: Kegan Paul & Co.

Letter Reference	View Karl Pearson 840/4/1/41-42
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Epistolary Type	Letter
Letter Date	9 October 1885
Address From	16 Portsea Place, Westminster, London
Address To
Who To	Karl Pearson
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1:  16 Portsea Place
2:  Connaught Sq
3:  Oct 9 / 85
4: 
5:  I am feeling somewhat troubled about what you said last night. I would
6:  pain me deeply if you got into any trouble through any thing any
7:  friend of mine said of the club. I can fully understand how painful it
8:  must be to have it spoken of by non-sympathetic people. I can only say
9:  it has given me pain only to think of such a thing. I saw Miss Müller
10:  this morning. She says of course if you can’t come in the evening
11:  come to her house for lunch as arranged.
12: 
13:  Yours very sincerely
14:  O.S.
15: 

Letter Reference	View Karl Pearson 840/4/1/43-53
Archive	University College London Library, Special Collections, UCL, London
Epistolary Type	Letter
Letter Date	11 October 1885
Address From	16 Portsea Place, Westminster, London
Address To
Who To	Karl Pearson
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1:  Dear Mr Pearson
2: 
3:  I made a mistake so we all went to 86 Portland Pl. & had to go down to
4:  the club. Miss Müller was very disappointed She went up in a cab to
5:  the house to see if you were there, & we waited lunch till half past
6:  two.
7: 
8:  Ye I wanted to talk with you. Your letter of yesterday pained me very
9:  much & I wrote you a rather bitter letter, but I’m glad I didn’t
10:  post it, as I’m sure you didn’t mean what your letter seemed to
11:  imply.
12: 
13:  Dr Donkin would or could no I thought that the men at the club were
14:  perhaps laughing at you for going to talk with a lot of old maids and
15:  man-haters about your man’s rights, & so I felt sorry for you. As it
16:  is if such things as you say are said about the club I as ^probably^ the
17:  youngest woman there & whose name would most certainly be mentioned,
18:  think I should give most pity to myself, certainly more to all my the
19:  young unmarried women than to the married whose established position
20:  &tc. makes them far less liable to be hurt by things that are said. I
21:  did not tell Dr Donkin that you in any way mentioned Ray, but asked
22:  him about him ^on my own account^ & said that I understood men in the
23:  club were making remarks that hurt you. He was very much cut up about
24:  it, & said he would of course not come to the meeting. I agreed he was
25:  had better not come, & was not coming myself, (as if there is any
26:  blame it rests entirely upon me) but thinking it over today I feel it
27:  would cause much talking, and Miss Müller would be hurt. As she reads
28:  the paper & says she has seldom been able to speak with such freedom
29:  to any man & to Dr Donkin, I have thought it better he should come,
30:  much against his will, as he is morbidly sensitive; but if he were to
31:  stay away it might cause people really to think there was something to
32:  be concealed. I don’t know what you may or may not know of Dr Donkin;
33:  but after three years of close acquaintance, the impression left on
34:  my mind is that there is no man, not even yourself in whom I feel
35:  great trust, whom a woman can so completely trust as Donkin. I think
36:  this feeling is unreadable universal among the women who know him. He
37:  has felt greatly interested in the club, & has much wished to meet you.
38:  & if you I feel more acutely for his sake than for mine, & go to the
39:  club with great difficulty & with a bitter conquest of pride. I am
40:  very thankful my paper is not to be read. Please do not think I asked
41:  Dr Donkin to come: he told me Mr Parker had asked him when they had
42:  their talk. I very long ago made up my mind that I would not ask any
43:  one, or take a more prominent part in the club that I could help.
44:  Please don’t send this letter the round of the women of the club,
45:  though apparently a public letter it is really private, as I am
46:  writing in great hurry & have not time to pick my words. I have not
47:  told Dr Donkin what you said in your letter so he is meeting you with
48:  the kindest feelings. Please do not show him too pointedly what you
49:  may think of his being there, as I am making him go because I think it
50:  better. You will not be troubled in future with anything that I have
51:  done. This letter seems nastier than I mean it to be. I have sincere
52:  respect for you & feel in some ways more sympathy with you than I have
53:  ever felt with any mind. But I think it would have been better if you
54:  had kept the club entirely to yourself, & a circle of personally
55:  intimates friends, all with
56: 
57:  Experience has proved to me that With regard to "free love" I have
58:  long made up my mind that it is a peculiarly devilish thing. I believe
59:  most strongly that no union should be formed except in the hope of its
60:  being lifelong, though I differ entirely from the persona ^orthodox^
61:  view of ^its^ being right to keep on the union when love has died. As
62:  long as it is I kept on it should be rigorously & closely held to, but
63:  I believe it may be right, if does not cost too much suffering to
64:  others openly & frankly to break it. I have a large number of personal
65:  men friends in London of all kinds, but of this I am sure that not one
66:  of them, least of all worldly men like George Moore-, would believe it
67:  possible for me to belong to any society in which there was any
68:  treatment of love that was not pure & high. I am not so wonderful &
69:  good as they think me, but it has struck me almost pathetically how
70:  readily, even in what are called men of the world if you will but
71:  strike the right note, you ^a woman^ can call out the higher & more
72:  ideal nature that by does slumber in every man. It is principally by
73:  personal action & interaction that we shall rise to a higher state.
74:  All this is the a kind of answer to the last part of your letter.
75: 
76:  I am very weary tonight & am afraid this is very confused.
77: 
78:  O. Schreiner.
79: 
80:  ^Miss Müller says she said Albermarl St but I don’t think so^
81: 
82: 

Notation
Henrietta Muller read 'The Other Side of the Question' to the Men and Women's Club in October 1885. Rive's (1987) version omits part of this letter and is also in a number of respects incorrect.

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Epistolary Type	Letter
Letter Date	Saturday 17 October 1885
Address From	16 Portsea Place, Westminster, London
Address To
Who To	Karl Pearson
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1:  Saturday
2: 
3:  Dear Mr Pearson
4: 
5:  Thank you for your letter. I am not able to answer it because I have
6:  to fight against everything that makes me think or feel. If my
7:  friendship is of any value to you please know you have it. We are
8:  always wanting to make life bright & beautiful to others, & yet we
9:  unreadable who want it so can’t help paining each other. Please know
10:  when you come on Monday evening you are coming to a friend. I do not
11:  believe that story of about Miss Müller, she would not have been so
12:  unloyal to another woman. I will not be there on Sunday, she has not
13:  asked me. I hope I did not make you feel unhappy the other night.
14: 
15:  Olive Schreiner
16: 
17:  ^I think I would like to see Mrs Wilson very much. Could you give me
18:  her address I often go up to Hampstead Heath to rest ^^& might go to see her^^
19:  Or you & she might come, to see me if you liked.^
20: 
21: 
22: 
23: 

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Epistolary Type	Letter
Letter Date	20 October 1885
Address From	16 Portsea Place, Westminster, London
Address To
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1:  [page/s missing] I would like to meet Mrs Wilson somewhere at tea; if
2:  that was what you meant: was it?
3: 
4:  I am leaving for Dover to rest for three days with Miss Haddon. It is
5:  always rest for me to be with her: one feels one has got to something
6:  so really true. I return on Friday. My address will then be 21 Upper
7:  George St. It is about half a minute’s walk from this.
8: 
9:  I am reading Aspasia. I like it. It is a book to read slowly & enjoy
10:  as one does poetry, sucking it in it. May I keep it a little longer?
11: 
12:  Yours O.S.
13: 
14:  If Miss Jones is at the ^next^ club meeting, will you talk to her a
15:  little if you have time? She has great admiration for you mentally
16:  joined the club just mainly for the sake of knowing you I think. It
17:  would give her great pleasure. I had no special wish she should join
18:  the club; I don’t think she likes me much, as a strong anti
19:  Hintonian but she full of beautiful qualities, & when she talking to
20:  you you are sometimes started by a glimpse of a really beautiful soul.
21:  She has very little pleasure in her life.
22: 
23: 
24: 

Notation
The book referred to is: Robert Hamerling (1882) Aspasia: A Romance of Art and Love in Ancient Hellas New York: Gottsberger Peck.

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Epistolary Type	Letter
Letter Date	31 October 1885
Address From	9 Blandford Square, Paddington, London
Address To
Who To	Karl Pearson
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1:  9 Blandford Sq
2: 
3:  I liked to come very much yesterday. How nice your little room is with
4:  all it’s brown books. I liked Mrs Wilson but I can’t talk when I
5:  want to.
6: 
7:  Please send me your paper, I will like to see it very much, but I
8:  won’t have anything to say. If that Ruskin thing comes to anything I
9:  think I could get some nice names for it, P. Marston’s & different
10:  artists’ &c, so on. They only want more or less known people I
11:  suppose? A friend of mine sent Ruskin some Cape ^South African^ shells
12:  she had collected & he wrote her such a beautiful little letter. It is
13:  such an awful thing when that sense of your own possible complete
14:  wrongness comes upon you; but it must be more awful when it comes at
15:  the end of the life’s work.
16: 
17:  Olive Sch.
18: 
19:  Do you, or does Does Mr Thicknesse know anything of a man called
20:  Arnold White? I should be glad of anything you could tell me of him.
21: 
22:  O.S.
23: 
24: 
25: 

Notation
It is not clear what 'Ruskin thing' is referred to, although an unknown hand has written: 'A letter of appreciation to be sent to Ruskin, see letter to K.P. in General Series Oct. 85. Ruskin was in depressed state.'

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Epistolary Type	Letter
Letter Date	Wednesday 4 November 1885
Address From	9 Blandford Square, Paddington, London
Address To
Who To	Karl Pearson
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1:  9 Blandford Sq
2:  Wednesday
3: 
4:  I am sorry I can’t remember Mr Parker’s address. I have been much
5:  interested in the paper. Of course I agreee with very little of it,
6:  but the first muddle about the A.B.C. is very good. The last little
7:  bit doesn’t to me seem worthy of you. I have a feeling that you are
8:  trying to prove a foregone conclusion for some purpose or other. Do
9:  you understand what I mean? Generally you reason right out, without
10:  caring where your reasoning takes you; so it be true. I don’t ^feel it^
11:  in this case. It may be my blindness.
12: 
13:  Olive Schreiner
14: 
15:  I am going to dine with Miss Müller this eve. to meet Mr Chapman. I
16:  shall ask him who that miserable article on Chastity was by. I think
17:  it was by unreadable a man called Aldis.
18: 
19:  ^Please really read Whitman. You will like him so much.^
20: 
21: 
22: 

Notation
The paper that 'much interested' Schreiner is perhaps Pearson's 'The Woman's Question', read at the first meeting of the Men and Women's Club in July 1885. No 'miserable article' on chastity can be found in the issues of the Pall Mall Gazette around the date of this letter, although it was full of the Eliza Armstrong 'kidnapping' case involving Stead, with the articles on this appearing under the banner of "The Maiden Tribute of Modern Babylon". See its editor W.T. Stead's four articles under this heading on prostitution and the age of consent, published in the Pall Mall Gazette on 6, 7, 8 and 9 July 1885. The book referred to is: Walt Whitman (1884) Leaves of Grass London: David Bogue.

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Epistolary Type	Letter
Letter Date	Thursday 5 November 1885
Address From	9 Blandford Square, Paddington, London
Address To
Who To	Karl Pearson
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1:  9 Blandford Sq
2:  Thursday
3: 
4:  I hope you did not mind what I said about your paper; did you? I got
5:  quite unhappy thinking about it last night. I feel as though I I told
6:  Mr Thicknesse too that I didn’t like the last part; but he loves you
7:  so that it doesn’t matter what one says to him. I think what pains
8:  one is to find those one has looked on as friends have, have spoken of
9:  one to those who are not sympathetic & don’t like one. After Mr
10:  Thicknesse had gone Miss Müller burst out against the club & against
11:  me. She said what she said ^in her paper^ came like a revelation to all
12:  of us, we pretended not to have heard it before; we were too great
13:  cowards any of us to answer her, or ^to^ agree, with what we knew was
14:  the truth. I tried to say to say that what we opposed was her not
15:  defining what ^im^ morality & sin were, but Mr Martin, a friend of hers
16:  to whom she had evidently told about it; turned round on me & said "It
17:  wasn’t so; it wasn’t so, it wasn’t so, It isn’t true, it
18:  isn’t true!" I was never more astonished in my life & of course
19:  became silent, I didn’t say another word in justification of our
20:  conduct. I tell you this because you, Mr Thicknesse or Mr Parker, may
21:  be writing notes on her paper, & perhaps might unreadable & put ^write^
22:  them differently if you knew how bitter she felt. She has never been b
23:  see me since, the meeting; & she I thought she must be very bitter by
24:  the remark she made to Mr Thicknesse & myself at dinner about the club
25:  being made up of old maids &c. I think she is now in a nervous &
26:  unstrung mental & physical state, caused by her very rapp wonderful
27:  mental growth lately, & I wouldn’t like us to say anything very hard
28:  on her at the next meeting. She is a plucky, fearless, brave, truthful
29:  little woman, & that’s a great thing, to say of a woman. I think if
30:  some man such as you could get near to her & treat her mentally with
31:  sympathy you might help her a great deal. Don’t forget about Miss
32:  Jones on Monday. I would like so much that you & Henry Ellis should
33:  know eachother, but he is so silent & has such a thick shell & so many
34:  prickles, & you have such a thick shell & so many prickles, that if
35:  you did meet you mightn’t know each other any better than before. I
36:  think the best thing in life is to find the people who belong to us, &
37:  when I see people who seem to belong to each other I feel such an
38:  irresistible wish to bring them together. But it doesn’t succeed
39:  sometimes. Please send me Mrs Wilson’s address I want to write to
40:  her. ^I do like her very much.^
41: 
42:  ^Don’t mind please what I say about what you write. I like to
43:  criticise your writings freely.^
44: 
45:  ^I’m so glad you’re so young; you’ve got so many years to work to
46:  grow still. I thought you were much older till Mr Thicknesse told me,
47:  I’m very glad.^
48: 
49: 
50: 

Notation
The papers Schreiner refers to are Pearson's 'The Woman's Question', read at the first meeting of the Men and Women's Club in July 1885, and Henrietta Muller's 'The Other Side of the Question', read in October 1885.

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Epistolary Type	Letter
Letter Date	Friday 6 November 1885
Address From	9 Blandford Square, Paddington, London
Address To
Who To	Karl Pearson
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1:  Friday
2: 
3:  Thank you for the letter. I had a nice note from her this morning. I
4:  do feel intense interest in "the Russians". for a time it was almost
5:  an absorbing interest. I believe the next great blow for human freedom
6:  that will be felt all round the world, will be struck there. But now,
7:  just now, I don’t see what work my nature has there. You must live
8:  among people, be one of them, work from inside is your work is to be
9:  true. At least it is so with a nature like mine. One of my day dreams
10:  for years was to go to Russia & become a nihilist. Now, today, I see
11:  another work but I don’t know what the future will bring.
12: 
13:  //Sometimes years pass, as you say the ^your^ last four have, & we feel
14:  they are years of decay, we are growing old, & we feel a kind of
15:  despair; then of God cometh not with observation." Sometimes while we
16:  are regretting that our branches do not blossom; there is a great
17:  store of sap silently rising & forming, which will cover them with
18:  blossoms afterwards, – one day.
19: 
20:  It’s so wonderful that we never know the meaning of what is going on
21:  within us? isn’t it. You will do some great work some day (perhaps
22:  not everything you think of now) but you will grow silently for some
23:  years first. I’ve never done any of my real work yet, but I think I
24:  begin to see what it is. I don’t despise the work you have done, but
25:  it doesn’t in any way represent you.
26: 
27:  Yours ever
28:  Olive Schreiner
29: 
30: 
31: 

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Epistolary Type	Letter
Letter Date	Sunday 10 November 1885
Address From	9 Blandford Square, Paddington, London
Address To
Who To	Karl Pearson
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1:  Sunday night
2: 
3:  After I got into the cab with Miss Müller she said all the women’s
4:  papers were first rate &c. I thought it was very generous of her as
5:  they were against her.
6: 
7:  Thank you very much for the book. It has not of course the same
8:  wonderful breadth & charm that Wilhelm Meister has, but it has
9:  something of the same breadth.
10: 
11:  Did Wilhelm Meister make the world seem so large & open to you when
12:  you read it the first time?
13: 
14:  You know if ever you care to come & see me you must please come, just
15:  as you would if I were a man.
16: 
17:  I thought Miss Eastty’s paper & Miss ^M^ Sharp’s first rate. Didn’t
18:  you?
19: 
20:  Olive Schreiner
21: 
22:  Weren’t you very much pleased with the meeting? I was.
23: 
24:  There are some things I rather want to talk over with you some day if
25:  you have time. Something you said at the club interested me very much,
26:  I should like to ask you about it.
27: 
28:  OS
29: 
30: 
31: 

Notation
Annie Eastty, Maria Sharpe, R.J. Parker and R.J. Ryle, among others, read 'Notes' on earlier papers by Karl Pearson and Henrietta Muller to the Men and Women's Club meeting in November 1885. The book referred to is: Johann Wolfgang Von Goethe (1874 [1824]) Wilhelm Meister Apprenticeship and Travels London: Chapman and Hall.

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Epistolary Type	Letter
Letter Date	Monday 16 November 1885
Address From	9 Blandford Square, Paddington, London
Address To
Who To	Karl Pearson
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1:  Monday night
2: 
3:  I send back Aspasia Thank you very much for it. Have you any book
4:  about that woman whose pictures you showed me? I know nothing about
5:  her. I should like to. There must be so many brave beautiful souls,
6:  men & women, buried in the mist of those back centuries. It is
7:  sometimes so nice to realize that the great beautiful souls we know of
8:  are only a moiety of those who have lived. Perhaps the most wonderful
9:  souls have lived & died know only to themselves! It’s sad in one way,
10:  but in another it makes one feel so rich.
11: 
12:  I’m coming on the 29th to South Place
13:  Olive Schreiner
14: 
15:  Mrs Cobb came to see me this afternoon: it rested me to see her
16:  beautiful face.
17: 

Notation
The book referred to is: Robert Hamerling (1882) Aspasia: A Romance of Art and Love in Ancient Hellas New York: Gottsberger Peck. The paper Pearson gave at South Place is (1885) 'Enthusiasm of the Market-Place and of the Study. A Discourse delivered at South Place Chapel, Finsbury, E.C.', later published in his (1888) The Ethic of Freethought: A Selection of Essays and Lectures London: T. Fisher Unwin.

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Epistolary Type	Letter
Letter Date	Thursday 19 November 1885
Address From	9 Blandford Square, Paddington, London
Address To
Who To	Karl Pearson
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1:  9 Blandford Sq
2:  Thursday night
3: 
4:  I send you my old copy of Emerson. Don’t read it of course if
5:  you’re not inclined. It doesn’t teach one any thing; it doesn’t
6:  give one any new ideas. The day I read the essay on "Selfreliance",
7:  was ^a^ very great day to me unreadable. I always thought I was alone
8:  till then. I hope you’ll like him. I should like you to. All my
9:  other friends I grow older than & past; but he is just as much to me
10:  today in London as he was when I was a girl in the pine woods. Thank
11:  you so much for having remembered that I wanted a book about Jerome.
12:  Are you working at your
13: 
14:  Yours ever sincerely
15:  Olive Schreiner
16: 
17:  Excuse it’s being such an old copy. I can’t have it bound because
18:  it wouldn’t be the same.
19: 
20: 
21: 

Notation
The essay on 'Selfreliance' is in Ralph Waldo Emerson (1841) Essays Boston: J. Munroe & Co.

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Epistolary Type	Letter
Letter Date	Thursday 26 November 1885
Address From	9 Blandford Square, Paddington, London
Address To
Who To	Karl Pearson
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1:  9 Blandford Sq
2:  Thursday
3: 
4:  Could you let me have again (it’s only for myself) your reply to Mr
5:  Parker’s criticism of your paper. I think you ought to read it, or at
6:  least to say the same things in the club one day.
7: 
8:  About Miss Hadden I think it would give her so much pleasure if you
9:  asked her to be a member of the club. If you can’t take more women,
10:  you know I would be glad to give her my place I think ^& still always
11:  come to the^ club as a visitor.
12: 
13:  Please let me know in what part of London South Place is. I have sent
14:  the paper to someone else. My friend Mrs Philpot & I think several
15:  others are coming on Sunday. She has read your "Woman’s Question" with
16:  much sympathy. If you think of it at any time I wish you would send
17:  her your Socialism Pamphlet. She is just ready to be influenced by it.
18:  Her address is 13 South Eaton Place SW.
19: 
20:  I wish she could know you.
21: 
22:  Mrs Wilson is coming to see me next Tuesday evening. I am looking
23:  forward to it.
24: 
25:  I was so glad to see you & Thicknesse the other evening. Knowing you
26:  has been a help to me in ways you wouldn’t think of.
27: 
28:  Yesterday I went to see some girls in the Magdalene ward at "Barts". I
29:  feel more & more I must know more of them.
30: 
31:  Olive Schreiner
32: 
33: 
34: 

Notation
'Mr Parker's criticism' refers to the 'Notes' read by Parker, among others, at the November 1885 meeting of the Men and Women's Club, responding to Pearson's 'The Woman's Question' and Henrietta Muller's 'The Other Side of the Question'. The 'Socialism Pamphlet' is Karl Pearson (1884) 'Socialism in Theory and Practice' London: William Reeves, later published in his (1888) The Ethic of Freethought: A Selection of Essays and Lectures London: T. Fisher Unwin.

Letter Reference	View Karl Pearson 840/4/1/85-86
Archive	University College London Library, Special Collections, UCL, London
Epistolary Type	Letter
Letter Date	Saturday 29 November 1885
Address From	21 Upper George Street, Connaught Square, London
Address To
Who To	Karl Pearson
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1:  Sat. night
2: 
3:  My dear Mr Pearson
4: 
5:  I shall be glad to see you on Monday. Will you kindly address this
6:  letter to Mrs Wilson as I have not put down her address & have
7:  forgotten it.
8: 
9:  Yes, I wish you could get away to perfect solitude for a couple of
10:  years; quite away, where you couldn’t write or get too many letters
11:  even. I am sometimes afraid that your physical strength may not stand
12:  permanently the tention under which you live, you are though you look
13:  very strong. Substantially I am sure we quite agree about the
14:  attraction & impulse, it is really a question of words – words,
15:  words.
16: 
17:  What I wanted to see again was not your last paper, but your letter to
18:  Parker.
19: 
20:  O. Schreiner
21: 
22: 

Notation
Pearson's 'last paper' is probably 'The Woman's Question', read at the Men and Women's Club meeting in July 1885.

Letter Reference	View Karl Pearson 840/4/1/87-88
Archive	University College London Library, Special Collections, UCL, London
Epistolary Type	Letter
Letter Date	2 December 1885
Address From	9 Blandford Square, Paddington, London
Address To
Who To	Karl Pearson
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1:  Dear Mr Pearson
2: 
3:  You need not think I shall repeat what you said. I exercise a large
4:  discretion with regard to the things that are told me, that than the
5:  speak often would himself. I am not likely to repeat either that or
6:  anything else you might say to me.
7: 
8:  I do not think a devil rules the laws of the Universe (better stated
9:  as, "the general relationship between things") has no more ^conscious^
10:  relation to & is no more guided by our little wants & desires, &
11:  sufferings, than the express from Manchester to London is guided by
12:  the thought of the dust when it drives over & crushes it on the rails.
13:  Universal existence never appeared to me so serenely beautiful as now.
14: 
15:  Please be careful not to your mother or anyone to say anything about
16:  Mrs Diclander, it might get her into serious trouble.
17: 
18:  O.S.
19: 
20:  ^I want to propose Miss Hadden as a visitor to the next meeting. Will
21:  you second it? ^
22:  O.S.
23: 
24: 
25: 

Letter Reference	View Karl Pearson 840/4/1/91
Archive	University College London Library, Special Collections, UCL, London
Epistolary Type	Postcard
Letter Date	8 December 1885
Address From	9 Blandford Square, Paddington, London
Address To	2 Harcourt Buildings, Temple, London
Who To	Karl Pearson
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1:  Thursday at 5 will suit me. If I should not come don’t wait.
2: 
3:  Thank you for the lecture. I sympathize more with the underlying idea
4:  expressed in it than with anything I have yet seen of yours. I think
5:  your words completely veil your meaning from those who have not
6:  already the idea. Some who were there completely misunderstood you.
7: 
8:  O.S.
9: 
10: 
11: 

Notation
The lecture Schreiner refers to is most likely: Karl Pearson (1885) 'Enthusiasm of the Market-Place and of the Study. A Discourse delivered at South Place Chapel, Finsbury, E.C. on Sunday 29 November 1885', later published in his The Ethic of Freethought: A Selection of Essays and Lectures London: T. Fisher Unwin.

Letter Reference	View Karl Pearson 840/4/1/92-95
Archive	University College London Library, Special Collections, UCL, London
Epistolary Type	Letter
Letter Date	December 1885
Address From	9 Blandford Square, Paddington, London
Address To
Who To	Karl Pearson
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1:  Private
2: 
3:  I write as I may not have time to speak. Would you care to come to a
4:  New Life meeting on the 21st. It is to be held at Williams’ Library
5:  Gower St. Carpenter, & I think Miss Lord, will be there.
6: 
7:  I wish you & Dr Donkin could get a little near to each other. Perhaps
8:  you are too different. There is such a pure sweet gentle boyish side
9:  to his nature, you would like that if you could see it. Do not mention
10:  what I told you Karl Pearson. My way is all dark about me still.
11: 
12:  Your visit rested my brain more than anything has for weeks.
13: 
14:  O.S.
15: 
16:  ^This letter of Carpenters may interest you as you are going to meet him.^
17: 

Notation
The month and year have been written on this letter in an unknown hand. Schreiner was resident in Blandford Square from the end of November to mid January 1886, when she left London for the Isle of Wight. The name of the addressee is indicated by content. The final insertion is on the back of a letter from Carpenter to Havelock Ellis, as follows:

Sheffield
14 December

Dear Havelock Ellis

Many thanks for yr note & criticisms of my ‘Science’.

I expect the pamphlet was written more for the general public than for such as you – ‘more reason’ you will say ‘that is should be judicial & carefully balanced’, which I freely admit it is not. It is an attack and was written in anything but a judicial frame of mind!

I guess too there is a certain crudeness & assumption – offhandedness – about it which is as you say irritating, considering these things have been talked about before!

All the same ^time^ I believe in the main position – i.e. – that a purely intellectual science must inevitably in course of time turn upon & destroy itself – and I do not think this is sufficiently recognised at present. That the arguments I use have been discovered by science is not against my position – rather in favour of it – I merely marshall together all I can think of in order to hasten the suicide (wh. I contend must inevitably come).

Of course Science & its contributions have been immensely valuable – I don’t really wish to underrate them – nor would it do ^for us^ to plunge into the abyss of Quietism & Mysticism or whatever you call it – (I expect we have to oscillate gently between the two!) – but I have tried to give a push in the latter direction. Curious about the coincidence of the later pages with yr paper – is it on the ‘absolute datum’ question? I should like to see what you say, if printed. – Anyhow I should like to see the whole subject fought out.

Those passages towards the beginning of T.D. I did not ‘withdraw’ from any change of mind – except that ^but^ I wanted to shorten the early part, and they appeared poor & inadequate, I would rather give (if I could) better expression to the subject of nakedness & the body. However Whitman has done that – if no one else does it to the end of time.

If you send that book you mentioned – send it to 7 ?Wynnstory Gardens, Kensington W. – wh. will be my address for the next 4 weeks. I shall be glad to arrange with Percival Chubb about the lecture or lectures - & will l come if I can to yr meeting in Gower St.

With all friendly greetings
Edw Carpenter.

Carpenter’s pamphlet on ‘Science’ is: Edward Carpenter (1885) Modern Science: A Criticism Manchester: John Heywood. ‘T.D.’ refers to: Edward Carpenter (1885) Towards Democracy Manchester: John Heywood.

Letter Reference	View Karl Pearson 840/4/1/89-90
Archive	University College London Library, Special Collections, UCL, London
Epistolary Type	Letter
Letter Date	Saturday 7 December 1885
Address From	9 Blandford Square, Paddington, London
Address To
Who To	Karl Pearson
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1:  Sat. night
2: 
3:  I haven’t been able to go about with the Ruskin paper because I’ve
4:  not been well all the week. Pleas I’ve sent it to the Hon. Roden
5:  Noel, unreadable ^who^ will send it on to you. Miss Lord is out of town,
6:  Mrs Andersen wouldn’t sign. Will you be a seconder for Miss Hadden?
7:  Mrs Walters is very enthusiastic about your Russian article in the
8:  Cambridge paper. She took it to a news paper editor – but it’s too
9:  long to write, I’m so tired.
10: 
11:  The letters I’ll send you tomorrow are from that woman I told you
12:  I’d like you to know if you think you could be of help to her. I
13:  don’t want you to be running yourself out in new directions, only
14:  you will go running yourself ^out^ whether I propose something new or
15:  not.
16: 
17:  I wish my friendship could be of some use to you; only it seems I can
18:  only come near to people who want stimulating or comforting, & you
19:  don’t want either; you want rest. That it is what you need eh?
20: 
21:  Olive Schreiner
22: 
23:  ^Did you see that delightful little bit about George Eliot in the
24:  Atheneum the other day.^
25: 
26: 
27: 

Notation
The 'Ruskin paper' is probably the 'letter of appreciation' referred to in Pearson 840/4/1/59-61. Pearson's 'Russian article' is probably his (1885) 'The Coming Factor in European Progress' Cambridge Review vol 7: 26-28. A 'delightful little bit' about George Eliot appearing in the Athenaeum in the issues before this date cannot be established; Schreiner read many journals and reviews and so it may have have appeared elsewhere.

Letter Reference	View Karl Pearson 840/4/1/97-98
Archive	University College London Library, Special Collections, UCL, London
Epistolary Type	Letter
Letter Date	Saturday 21 December 1885
Address From	9 Blandford Square, Paddington, London
Address To
Who To	Karl Pearson
Other Versions	Rive 1987: 69-70

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1:  Sat night
2: 
3:  I send you Mrs Walter’s letter. I have been thinking about Hinton.
4:  We, I, must not be too bitter against him. ^I am sure that he was mad.^
5:  He was open in what he did. Mrs Barnes has thrown a great deal of
6:  light on his character to me. She says that he often told her that if
7:  when he was forty he had "quietly taken a mistress as other men do,
8:  nothing of all this would have happened." He used to sit Miss Haddon
9:  naked on his knees, & play with her: his theory was that a man’s
10:  wish for contact with a woman’s body was right, & must be gratified.
11:  His theory & ^his^ practice ^worked it out^ unreadable the unreadable of
12:  physical contact between women & men. My loathing for Hinton grows so
13:  strong that it is painful to mention him, I but I want to be just to
14:  him. I think the depth of degradation to which he sinks woman makes it
15:  harder for me than it would otherwise be.
16: 
17:  Thank you for your letter. All you said was true. Karl Pearson-, I am
18:  absolutely in the dark. I think & think, & think, & stand motionless.
19:  Where there are many duties which is the highest. I feel that
20:  something in your past has thrown light on my present, other wise I do
21:  not know why I write
22: 
23:  ^to you. I, yes, I have my work to think of; & I have the most
24:  beautiful human soul that ever was in my hand. Am I to take it up, and
25:  crush it! I, when I have wilfully let it see how I loved it! Yes, I
26:  have my work to think of.^
27: 
28:  Olive Sch
29: 
30:  ^I must have a talk with you about Hinton. You are going too far to one
31:  side. You are just in the state I was in about Hinton a year ago when
32:  I read his thoughts on Home Place. Miss Haddon has just called. ^
33: 
34:  OS.
35: 
36:  Please come this evening.
37: 
38:  ^I hope you will be there on Monday. The meeting begins at 7.30 but
39:  some of us are going at seven, can you come then early.^
40: 
41: 
42: 

Notation
Hinton's 'thoughts' is a reference to James Hinton's unpublished essay 'Thoughts on Home', which Ellis had been lent by Mrs Hinton and then passed on to Schreiner. Rive's (1987) version has been misdated, omits part of the letter, and is also in a number of respects incorrect.

Letter Reference	View Karl Pearson 840/4/1/96
Archive	University College London Library, Special Collections, UCL, London
Epistolary Type	Letter
Letter Date	December 1885
Address From	9 Blandford Square, Paddington, London
Address To
Who To	Karl Pearson
Other Versions	Rive 1987: 70

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1:  [page/s missing]
2: 
3:  There is something very pathetic to me in the fact that as Hinton was
4:  in his dying state he cried out that it was all a mistake all wrong,
5:  wrong, wrong. That every thing he had written in the last seven years
6:  was to be burnt & thrown away. Poor old brother soul, rather than
7:  crush it, let us find out some better & nobler mode of relationship
8:  than he or the past have dreamed of. I say this not preaching to you
9:  but to myself.
10: 
11:  OS.
12: 
13:  One must be very careful of what one says because of Miss Haddon & her
14:  school. We must not crush other human lives. It is the men Hintonians
15:  that I feel so bitter against.
16: 
17: 
18: 

Notation
This letter is written on the back of a long letter from Mrs E.M. Walters to Schreiner, dated 17 December 1885 and sent from 5 The Avenue, Bedford, which concerns how sexually predatory Hinton was. Rive's (1987) version of the letter is in a number of respects incorrect.

Letter Reference	View Karl Pearson 840/4/1/99-102
Archive	University College London Library, Special Collections, UCL, London
Epistolary Type	Letter
Letter Date	Tuesday 23 December 1885
Address From	9 Blandford Square, Paddington, London
Address To
Who To	Karl Pearson
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1:  Tuesday night
2: 
3:  You surely are to be trusted. I have felt much pained by some thing, I
4:  have heard you have said. What Mrs Walters wrote was on my solemn
5:  promise that it was for you, & you alone. But what I said to you you
6:  the other night was far more important. To no human being but your
7:  self, not to Donkin, would I have told what I did but I feel sure that
8:  I am mistaken. [papertorn] As you know, I care nothing in a matter of
9:  principle what is said of myself. I have lived alone & in poverty from
10:  my childhood [papertorn] for far more abstract principles than the
11:  Hintonian. But the sacrifice is is one that must be made by each
12:  individual for himself not forced on him by others.
13: 
14:  Please forgive my writing so, I am feeling troubled tonight & not very
15:  sure what I am writing. Can you come, if only for a few minutes
16:  ^tomorrow Wednesday,^ on ^or^ Thursday evening, as I can’t explain in
17:  writing.
18: 
19:  It was a disappointment to me that you were not at the New Life.
20:  Olive Schreiner
21: 
22:  In truth I am suffering horrible remorse. One has no right to speak of
23:  others however perfectly one may trust.
24: 
25: 
26: 

Letter Reference	View Karl Pearson 840/4/1/106-107
Archive	University College London Library, Special Collections, UCL, London
Epistolary Type	Letter
Letter Date	September 1885
Address From	16 Portsea Place, Westminster, London
Address To
Who To	Karl Pearson
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1:  My dear Mr Pearson
2: 
3:  Thank you for the pamphlets. The Ethic of Freethought I like best of
4:  all your writings that I have seen. Ellis tells me it is out of print;
5:  have you perhaps another copy that you might spare me? I want to send
6:  it to some one at the Cape. I return the Martin Luther paper. I do not
7:  like it very much. I sympathize strongly with the main idea. But you
8:  sometimes make assertions in it which it does not seem to me you
9:  yourself would ^quite^ be prepared to defend. You seem to wish more to
10:  prove your point than to get at the truth, & that is a quality I
11:  don’t see in anything else of yours. It interested me very much
12:  though ^& in style is splendid.^ I have taken the liberty of lending the
13:  Rights of Women it to a friend who wanted to see it very much. I hope
14:  you won’t mind.
15: 
16:  ^I will read it & return it as soon as she sends it back. I have
17:  written my paper but it is about ? times the length it must be & shall
18:  have to condense it still. ^
19: 
20:  Yours very sincerely
21:  Olive Schreiner
22: 
23:  ^I was very glad to hear that you were working at mathematics. I was
24:  afraid there was no one thing on which you were concentrating yourself.^
25: 
26:  ^The great danger some of us have to fight against is too much
27:  splitting up of ourselves.^
28: 
29: 
30: 

Notation
The references to Pearson's publications are: (1883) The Ethic of Freethought. A Lecture (London: E. W. Allen) later republished in his (1888) The Ethic of Freethought: A Selection of Essays and Lectures London: T. Fisher Unwin; (1884) 'Martin Luther: his Influence on the Material and Intellectual Welfare of Germany', also later republished in his The Ethic of Freethought. The 'Rights of Women' is Mary Wollstonecraft (1792) A Vindication of the Rights of Woman London: J. Johnson.

Letter Reference	View Karl Pearson 840/4/1/103
Archive	University College London Library, Special Collections, UCL, London
Epistolary Type	Postcard
Letter Date	31 December 1885
Address From	9 Blandford Square, Paddington, London
Address To	2 Harcourt Buildings, Temple, London
Who To	Karl Pearson
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1:  There will, I think, be a letter mine in the Daily News tomorrow.
2:  (Thursday). I hope you are having a good Xmas time.
3: 
4:  O.S.
5: 
6: 
7: 

Notation
Two different drafts of the 'letter of mine' in the Daily News will be found at OliveSchreinerLetters/OS-DailyNews/1 and HRC/OliveSchreinerLetters/OS-DailyNews/2. However, the letter in fact appeared in The Standard.

Letter Reference	View Karl Pearson 840/4/1/104
Archive	University College London Library, Special Collections, UCL, London
Epistolary Type	Postcard
Letter Date	Thursday 31 December 1885
Address From	9 Blandford Square, Paddington, London
Address To	2 Harcourt Buildings, Temple, London
Who To	Karl Pearson
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1:  Thursday
2: 
3:  Glad to see you tomorrow, any time after 8. Want to talk over my Daily News
4:  letter with you. Going to spend tomorrow afternoon with Carpenter
5: 
6:  Olive Sch.
7: 
8: 
9: 

Notation
Two different drafts of the letter referred to in the Daily News will be found at OliveSchreinerLetters/OS-DailyNews/1 and HRC/OliveSchreinerLetters/OS-DailyNews/2. However, the letter in fact appeared in The Standard.

Letter Reference	View Karl Pearson 840/4/1/105
Archive	University College London Library, Special Collections, UCL, London
Epistolary Type	Letter
Letter Date	After Start: July 1885 ; Before End: December 1885
Address From	na
Address To
Who To	Karl Pearson
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1:  Note
2: 
3:  In the foregoing paper, the main points ^with regard^ to woman’s
4:  position & nature which it might be desirable to deal with, have been
5:  enumerated with satisfactory completeness.
6: 
7:  But there has been an oversight, remarkable & very suggestive. One
8:  half of our problem has been left out. Man, his opinions, his
9:  intellectual & physical constitution, the wants of his nature, his use
10:  in the world, his dependence on the social circumstances by which he
11:  is surrounded; these, & other ^& the minor^ problems opening out of them
12:  are not even indicated. On these subject many of us feel that our
13:  ignorance reaches its profoundest depth; & that if our society fails
14:  to ^unreadable^ throw light on them, it must be pronounced a failure
15:  over half its field.
16: 
17:  Dear Mr Pearson
18: 
19:  ^I don’t know if you with care to put the above as a note at the end of
20:  your paper; do it or not, & put my name or not, as you like; only
21:  please have your paper printed quickly. The club ought to pay for it.
22:  We must see about this at the next meeting.
23: 
24:  O.S.^
25: 

Notation
Karl Pearson's 'The Woman's Question' was read at the first meeting of the Men and Women's Club in July 1885. It later appeared in: Karl Pearson (1888) The Ethic of Free Thought: A Selection of Essays and Lectures London: T. Fisher Unwin. Schreiner's note was not drawn on.

Letter Reference	View Karl Pearson 840/4/2/5-6
Archive	University College London Library, Special Collections, UCL, London
Epistolary Type	Letter
Letter Date	Monday 12 January 1886
Address From	9 Blandford Square, Paddington, London
Address To
Who To	Karl Pearson
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1:  9 Blandford Sq
2:  Monday night
3: 
4:  It may seem strange that I have a certain sharp satisfaction at the
5:  thought of receiving money help from you. I do not need it – I can
6:  do my work at Shanklin – I will now better than before – For for a
7:  long time the sense of satisfaction will remain.
8: 
9:  On Wednesday evening Miss Haddon is coming to talk with me. If you
10:  thought it well to talk the ^matter^ over straightly with her, you might
11:  come; but it hardly seems right that you should run yourself out any
12:  more than can be helped. You are looking far from well the last month.
13:  That apart, it would be well if you could meet her here.
14: 
15:  Your letter to me this morning was valuable, but less so than some you
16:  have written lately.
17: 
18:  Olive Schreiner
19: 
20: 

Letter Reference	View Karl Pearson 840/4/2/4
Archive	University College London Library, Special Collections, UCL, London
Epistolary Type	Letter
Letter Date	8 January 1886
Address From	na
Address To
Who To	Karl Pearson
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1:  The New Life meeting was very interesting. I wanted you to have been
2:  there. I leave for Shanklin in the Isle of Wight next Friday. I shall
3:  remain here for five months. I should like to have one talk more with
4:  you before I leave. Could you come on Sunday evening I can’t take up
5:  the police question properly now; it would cost me too much. I must
6:  wait till I have my other work off my hand.
7: 
8:  There will be a short letter of mine in the Standard tomorrow. I
9:  should like to talk the whole matter over with. This morning – but
10:  I’ll tell you about it when I see you.
11: 
12:  Olive Schreiner
13: 
14:  Mrs Cobb is coming to spend Monday afternoon with me.
15: 
16: 
17: 

Notation
Schreiner's letter did indeed appear in the Daily Standard; see The Standard / 5 January 1887, page 5, col 6

Letter Reference	View Karl Pearson 840/4/2/1-3
Archive	University College London Library, Special Collections, UCL, London
Epistolary Type	Letter
Letter Date	5 January 1886
Address From	9 Blandford Square, Paddington, London
Address To
Who To	Karl Pearson
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1:  Dear Mr Pearson
2: 
3:  In the hurry of going down to Brighton & other business I have quite
4:  forgotten to say that I must be quite wrong in what I said I about
5:  having told Mrs Cobb about Mrs Haycraft & talked about Miss Jones &c.
6:  I have had so had so many things to think of lately; that she is much
7:  more likely to be unreadable right than I am. I hope you will realize
8:  this. I have always prided myself on my very exact never mistaken
9:  memory in matters of life, but lately I have often forgotten things. I
10:  leave for Shanklin on the 14th I could give a cry of joy when I think
11:  of it, though I must be sitting alone there with the sea fog. I wish
12:  you were going to rest too. It will be so hard for you to curl up here.
13: 
14:  Olive Schreiner
15: 
16:  Please send the enclosed to Miss Clemes. I am always troubling you. I
17:  always forget addresses &c. Come if you can. I leave London on the
18:  14th.
19: 
20:  Olive Schreiner
21: 
22: 
23: 

Letter Reference	View Karl Pearson 840/4/2/7-10
Archive	University College London Library, Special Collections, UCL, London
Epistolary Type	Letter
Letter Date	Sunday 17 January 1886
Address From	Royal Spa Hotel, Shanklin, Isle of Wight
Address To
Who To	Karl Pearson
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1:  Royal Spa Hotel
2:  Shanklin
3:  I of W.
4:  Sunday morning
5: 
6:  I did not think my letter was difficult to understand not so difficult
7:  as yours are. What I meant was that I have now the greatest desire –
8:  necessity – to produce, but absolutely no impulse to give out to
9:  others what I do; & your letter, by showing you felt interest in my
10:  work gives a slight impulse in that direction. I presume if you
11:  didn’t feel interested in it you wouldn’t have written as you do.
12: 
13:  When I said sharp satisfaction I meant sharp satisfaction. I asked
14:  Miss H to come & meet you; she said she thought it she would rather
15:  not. Mrs Cobb had written to explain to you. I send you my letter to
16:  her which you may read as it is about yourself, & then please send on.
17:  It was a pity you & she did not meet. Things are always so much better
18:  talked over face to face. My fear is you were too much knocked up.
19: 
20:  I wish you were in a place as quiet & restful as this, in this whole
21:  huge hotel no one but myself & one man. I am sitting in the great
22:  glass house that covers in the front of the hotel, with the blue sea &
23:  sky outside. I would be rather glad if you would send me a card in a
24:  few days time as I am a little anxious to know how you are.
25: 
26:  Olive Schreiner
27: 
28:  Ray came to see me before I left, & I liked him
29: 

Letter Reference	View Karl Pearson 840/4/2/11-12
Archive	University College London Library, Special Collections, UCL, London
Epistolary Type	Letter
Letter Date	18 January 1886
Address From	Royal Spa Hotel, Shanklin, Isle of Wight
Address To
Who To	Karl Pearson
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1:  [page/s missing] I am sorry to say I fully agree with your letter. Had a long
2:  letter from Ray yesterday on the woman question I should like to send it you,
3:  but don’t know if he would like it It is very truthful &
4:  straightforward, - poor old Ray.
5: 
6:  The bit of letter I enclose is from Ellis.
7:  O.S.
8: 

Notation
The book somewhat mockingly referred to is Pearson's (1886) Matter and Soul (London: Sunday Lecture Series), which was later republished in his (1888) The Ethic of Freethought: A Selection of Essays and Lectures London: T. Fisher Unwin. The part-letter from Ellis is as follows: I wondered if this book would interest you at all. I don't think it's full enough. I am going to get that French book ^about physiognomy^ that I showed you at Charlotte St. from Smith to send you. It is really good & interesting. Thanks for papers. Pearson's latest & splendid little study is as good as anything I've seen of his & just what I wanted. That paper of Wilkes' doesn't a contain what I want about size of eyes; it was in the reprint that you had. "Matter & Soul" very good, a better answer to Carpenter, I think, than Ray Lankester. I've sent it to Chubb to read.

Letter Reference	View Karl Pearson 840/4/2/13
Archive	University College London Library, Special Collections, UCL, London
Epistolary Type	Postcard
Letter Date	28 January 1886
Address From	Royal Spa Hotel, Shanklin, Isle of Wight
Address To	2 Harcourt Buildings, Temple, London
Who To	Karl Pearson
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1:  I think Miss E would make a splendid member of the club. She would do
2:  well on the committee if you have not yet someone else. Thankyou for
3:  the papers. Are you curled up. I am.
4: 
5:  O.S.
6: 
7: 
8: 

Notation

Letter Reference	View Karl Pearson 840/4/2/14-17
Archive	University College London Library, Special Collections, UCL, London
Epistolary Type	Letter
Letter Date	February 1886
Address From	Royal Spa Hotel, Shanklin, Isle of Wight
Address To
Who To	Karl Pearson
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1:  Royal Spa Hotel
2:  Shanklin
3: 
4:  Thankyou a great deal for your letter. It was the only time I’ve
5:  laughed since I came here Miss Hadddon’s letter is not to be shown
6:  to anyone else, you are to send it back to me when you’ve read it.
7:  I hope you will go to Stanmore. ^Please curl up.^ I am glad you are well
8:  physically but these flashes of vigour if you if one uses them to the
9:  uttermost will send you down lower afterwards. What I wish is that you
10:  had time to brood over your ideas, to let them grow of themselves. I
11:  send you a bit of one of Dr Donkin’s letters because there’s a
12:  mention of the Woll. Club in it. He seems more interested in it than
13:  any of us. Don’t mention it to any one but my mind is very nearly
14:  made up to go out to the Cape, at the beginning of March. One can earn
15:  one’s living so easily there, without bei & I can’t quite manage
16:  this climate. I am well enough but it’s sad. I hope the next meeting
17:  of the Club will be good.
18: 
19:  Olive Schreiner
20: 
21:  Please send my your photograph. I will send you mine when I have one.
22: 
23:  I’ve not answered Miss H’s letter I can’t waste more time over
24:  Hinton
25: 

Letter Reference	View Karl Pearson 840/4/2/18-19
Archive	University College London Library, Special Collections, UCL, London
Epistolary Type	Letter
Letter Date	Saturday 7 February 1886
Address From	Shanklin, Isle of Wight
Address To
Who To	Karl Pearson
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1:  Shanklin
2:  Saturday
3: 
4:  My dear Karl Pearson
5: 
6:  Your letter was good for me. I can’t write now. I am in a good deal
7:  of trouble.
8: 
9:  Olive Schreiner
10: 
11:  I send you Ray Lankester’s last in confidence. Please be nice to
12:  Donkin on Monday.
13: 
14:  All that I know is that I am not a marrying woman; when it comes to
15:  the point my blood curdles & my heart is like stone
16: 
17:  OS
18: 
19: 
20: 

Letter Reference	View Karl Pearson 840/4/2/20-25
Archive	University College London Library, Special Collections, UCL, London
Epistolary Type	Letter
Letter Date	Tuesday 17 February 1886
Address From	Bournemouth, Dorset
Address To
Who To	Karl Pearson
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1:  Tuesday night
2: 
3:  I have had three very terrible dreams in my life that have printed
4:  themselves upon me as a part of my life. I had the fourth last night.
5:  They’re quite different from other dreams, like visions, you almost
6:  fancy they’re real. I thought I had a little red haired servant boy.
7:  I was looking at him, & suddenly something flashed upon me, & I asked
8:  him if he had killed you. He denied it at first & then he said yes he
9:  had drowned you in a large dark pond of water. The horror of the dream
10:  was the walking round & round this pond & thinking that you were down
11:  in the middle of it. It doesn’t seem horrible when you tell it but
12:  it was most awful unreadable ^to dream.^ When I half woke with that kind
13:  of horror, the funny thing was that I thought, "Ach it isn’t true,
14:  he isn’t dead, he’s only curled up" & I went to sleep again. It
15:  all looked so ridiculous when I woke this morning, but I’ve not been
16:  able to shake you out of my mind for a minute. I was going to write to
17:  you this evening: No, Karl, you will not get hard & bitter, your
18:  nature will broaden out into greater richness.
19: 
20:  When a human being who has been part of us, who has helped that which
21:  is our true self to grow, dies, then we have this great thing left
22:  that they live as it were in us still. However dead one part of them
23:  may be, that part of them which is in us, their influence, is still
24:  living, & we can determine to make it live more & work more, so that
25:  part of them at least shall be living & growing. Many people
26:  wouldn’t understand, but you will. I have always felt that about the
27:  only man who ever helped my life & who killed himself. We can work out
28:  & further as it were their incompleted lives. I have had a thought
29:  this evening that perhaps it would be good for you to come down here
30:  for a couple of days & walk about in the pine woods, & you need not
31:  ^come to^ see me, or I could walk with you sometimes if you liked. But
32:  perhaps it is best you should be among as much work & change as
33:  possible. Sometimes one wants quiet, & sometimes one doesn’t. There
34:  is something strangely peaceful & strengthening in getting away alone
35:  into the pine woods. If you feel inclined to write to me before next
36:  Saturday this will be my address. After that, Somerset House,
37:  Christchurch Rd.
38: 
39:  Always yours
40:  Olive Schreiner
41: 
42: 
43: 

Letter Reference	View Karl Pearson 840/4/2/26-29
Archive	University College London Library, Special Collections, UCL, London
Epistolary Type	Letter
Letter Date	18 February 1886
Address From	5 Sea View Terrace, West Hill Road, Bournemouth, Dorset
Address To
Who To	Karl Pearson
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1:  5 Sea View Terrace
2:  West Hill Rd.
3:  Bournemouth
4:  Feb 18 / 86
5: 
6:  I should much have liked to hear Mr Parker’s paper. Have you or he
7:  ever read a certain large History of Prostitution by an American? It
8:  is not to be had at the British, but if you subscribe to the "London
9:  Library" or have a friend who does you can get it there. It is well
10:  worth reading, a better collection of facts of on that subject from
11:  Grecian times downward that^n^ is to be found anywhere else in English
12:  or French. I don’t know what they may have in German on the subject,
13:  do you? I think it would be a valuable thing if all the members of the
14:  club who felt inclined were to study the C. D. acts Blue Books on the
15:  subject. I must read more. I have studied the one for 84 I think. If
16:  you want it, Ellis will send it you, he has it. It is a mass of
17:  information one needs to study not to read quickly.
18: 
19:  What thinkest thou of the riots? You see I have changed my camp. I got
20:  here yesterday. A multitude of reasons compelled my leaving Shanklin,
21:  but I have for it an undying affection. It has a wild individual
22:  beauty about it that no other place ^that I have^ in England has.
23:  Bournemouth is beautiful too. Does it ever strike you as such a
24:  comfort that wherever you wander there will always be solid earth & a
25:  sky, something of nature near you. even if it be obs-cured by houses &
26:  smoke? Just as I was writing it came upon me with a thrill of
27:  restfulness as I looked at the little bit of grey sky through my
28:  window It’s been raining here all day, now it’s going to leave off.
29:  I have one big room for living & sleeping in so I can satisfy my
30:  Bohemian desires to the uttermost. I’m curled up. You said you would,
31:  & now you don’t.
32: 
33:  Olive Schreiner
34: 
35: 
36: 

Notation
'Mr Parker's paper' is 'Sexual Relations among the Greeks of the Periclean Era', read at the February 1886 meeting of the Men and Women's Club. For the 'History of Prostitution', see: William W. Sanger (1859) History of Prostitution New York: Arno. 'C.D. acts' refers to the Contagious Diseases Acts of 1864, 1867, 1869 and the series of parliamentary 'Blue Books' reporting on their workings. Rive's (1987) version omits part of the letter and is also in a number of respects incorrect.

Letter Reference	View Karl Pearson 840/4/2/30
Archive	University College London Library, Special Collections, UCL, London
Epistolary Type	Postcard
Letter Date	19 February 1886
Address From	Somerset House, Bath Road, Bournemouth, Dorset
Address To	2 Harcourt Buildings, Temple, London
Who To	Karl Pearson
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1:  Have just opened my Emerson & found a ticket for the Sunday Lecture.
2:  Please excuse imbecility of last note. Been ill in bed more, or less
3:  ever since I came here. Thought change would do me good, but hasn’t,
4:  sufficient excuse for dreams.
5: 
6:  O.S.
7:  Somerset House
8:  Bath Rd.
9: 
10: 
11: 

Notation
The book referred to is: Ralph Waldo Emerson (1841) Essays Boston: J. Munroe & Co.

Letter Reference	View Karl Pearson 840/4/2/31-32
Archive	University College London Library, Special Collections, UCL, London
Epistolary Type	Letter
Letter Date	5 February 1886
Address From	Somerset House, Bath Road, Bournemouth, Dorset
Address To
Who To	Karl Pearson
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1:  Somerset House Bournemouth
2:  Feb 5 / 86
3: 
4:  Dear Mr Pearson
5: 
6:  I’ve not heard of you from any one for a great while. I hope you are
7:  working.
8: 
9:  I have long conversations with you & I do the talking for you too, &
10:  you are always then a "prig", I make you say such priggish things.
11: 
12:  I like Bradshaw. It must have been rather a rare soul, & greatness is
13:  some so much greater when I it works slowly & as it were in the dark.
14: 
15:  I am very happy; being here so still has been so good for me. But will
16:  you please write to me when you have anything to say.
17: 
18:  My mind is fully made up as to my course of duty. My time of unreadable
19:  I have never been so dissatisfied as lately with my-self, but the
20:  wavering has been the result of unsettled principle. "How much does a
21:  man owe to himself, how much to ^an^others? How far much does general
22:  work stand before work for the individual." When we show contemptible
23:  weakness & vacillation, it is always because some profound first
24:  principle is not reasoned out & settled. It is like trying a case in
25:  court, with advocates on both sides, & no judge. Any way in which you
26:  managed to stretch out a hand of friendship to Doctor Donkin would be
27:  a matter of personal thankfulness to me. I alone know how pure &
28:  tender & beautiful his nature is. No, I am long years past that stage
29:  in which one only "studies" humanity. It I can t only love them now.
30:  They all seem like part of myself.
31: 
32:  You know, Karl, that I know my life work is to help those miserable
33:  women.
34: 
35:  Your friend.
36:  Olive Schreiner
37: 
38:  ^My friend Mrs Philpot, a doctor’s wife wants to know you & would be
39:  a fine married woman in the club. Are you inclined to know her? It
40:  would be nice if both she & her husband were to join.^
41: 
42:  ^I’m going to send you one of my allegories to read.^
43: 
44: 
45: 
46: 

Notation
Which particular allegory Schreiner planned to send to Pearson cannot be established; at this time she was engaged in writing a number of them. Bradshaw refers to the widely-used guide to railway timetables. Rive's (1987) version has been misdated, omits part of this letter, and is also in a number of respects incorrect.

Letter Reference	View Karl Pearson 840/4/2/33-35
Archive	University College London Library, Special Collections, UCL, London
Epistolary Type	Letter
Letter Date	Sunday 8 March 1886
Address From	Somerset House, Bath Road, Bournemouth, Dorset
Address To
Who To	Karl Pearson
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1:  Somerset House
2:  Bath Rd
3:  Sunday night
4: 
5:  Would you care to meet my friend Eleanor Marx Aveling? She is a woman
6:  of genius though she never has done & probably never will do any thing.
7:  Donkin would arrange for you to meet at his house at tea, if you
8:  cared & I wish I could have introduced you to each other.
9: 
10:  I have heard much of that man Roberts I met at your rooms I think I
11:  should like him a great deal. Wouldn’t he be good for the club?
12: 
13:  Don’t trouble to reply unless you care to meet Eleanor; if you
14:  don’t I shall unreadable
15: 
16:  O.S.
17: 
18:  ^If they don’t get it I’m going to let myself out on this question O.S.^
19: 

Notation
Schreiner’s final insertion is written on part of an undated letter from Maggie (Margaret) Harkness:

“He says I must have some lady with me; so as there is no chance of your coming I think I must advertise; It is an opportunity I may never get again; or I don’t know where I shall be this winter. I saw Eleanor in the Museum yesterday. She fairly danced with anger. I told her that the translation of the Karma Sutra was locked up in the Library, is refused to women. See if she doesn’t get it!”

The book referred to is: Vatsyayana (1883) The Kama Sutra of Vatsyayana Cosmopoli: For the Kama Shastra society of London and Benares.

Letter Reference	View Karl Pearson 840/4/2/36
Archive	University College London Library, Special Collections, UCL, London
Epistolary Type	Postcard
Letter Date	9 March 1886
Address From	Bournemouth, Dorset
Address To	2 Harcourt Buildings, Temple, London
Who To	Karl Pearson
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1:  What is the book’s exact name, & when will it be out?
2: 
3:  O.S.
4: 
5:  My feeling about R. is like yours. I wish you knew more of him. I will
6:  write more about him.
7: 
8: 
9: 

Notation
The book Schreiner asks for details of is perhaps Pearson's (1886) Matter and Soul London: Sunday Lecture Series.

Letter Reference	View Karl Pearson 840/4/2/37
Archive	University College London Library, Special Collections, UCL, London
Epistolary Type	Letter
Letter Date	Tuesday 10 March 1886
Address From	Bournemouth, Dorset
Address To
Who To	Karl Pearson
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1:  Tuesday evening
2: 
3:  You must feel as if a great weight had rolled off you. You will
4:  perhaps feel better in health now that is done. I am glad you are
5:  going soon. I hope you will have no one with you. Abroad with the
6:  warmth, & the sunshine you will not be lonely. Please tell me exactly
7:  the name of the book, & how soon it will be ready.
8: 
9:  I always feel with Ray Lankester that he is a vast engine without a
10:  driver. He needs to be saved from his own unreasoning power, & made
11:  conscious as it were. You could help him if you got near him. I might
12:  – but I’m not going to help men anymore – I want a place where
13:  its warm & to lie down in the sun on the ground. I can’t write
14:  letters any more. I haven’t finished my allegory.
15: 
16:  Olive Schreiner
17: 
18:  I don’t care ^so^ much whether I ever see you again, but I want you to
19:  attain your full height unreadable Absence from London is necessary
20:  for that; better for years than for months. I wish I could take you
21:  out of all your present life & put you in a new one.
22: 
23:  I am living in one room at the top of a house. It is beyond the Bath
24:  Hotel among the pines. I can’t go out, so I make the kettle boil all
25:  day. I want the tea, but it’s such an
26: 
27:  ^interesting occupation. My kettle isn’t a yellow one like yours
28:  it’s a little cold black one. Are you going to move from your rooms
29:  as you thought?^
30: 
31: 
32: 

Notation
The allegory Schreiner had not finished cannot be established, as she was writing a number at this time. The book she asks the title of is perhaps Pearson's (1886) Matter and Soul London: Sunday Lecture Series.

Letter Reference	View Karl Pearson 840/4/2/38-39
Archive	University College London Library, Special Collections, UCL, London
Epistolary Type	Letter
Letter Date	Friday 12 March 1886
Address From	Bournemouth, Dorset
Address To
Who To	Karl Pearson
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1:  Friday night
2: 
3:  I didn’t mean I wouldn’t help "men" if I could, I meant anybody.
4: 
5:  I like Miss Easty’s letter. She is a freed woman.
6: 
7:  I hope I shall understand your book: I shall tell you if I don’t. I
8:  want something new; something before which I can sit like a little
9:  child & learn: if it puzzles me so much the better.
10: 
11:  It isn’t that I didn’t want to write, - it’s that I can’t.
12:  I’ve been ill. I can’t bear to talk about it unreadable but the
13:  spring’ll soon be here now. Tomorrow week I’m going to try a new
14:  place called South Bourne-on Sea. It’s the point of the Bay; nearly
15:  touching the needles in the Isle of Wight. Its about two miles from
16:  Christchurch, do you remember Christchurch? South-Bourne is just a few
17:  houses out on the point – sand & tufts of rough grass – a wild
18:  bleak sort of place, Shanklin is a city compared to it. I think there
19:  are ten Houses.
20: 
21:  Who If you meet Mrs Philpot you will be disappointed, if you meet
22:  Eleanor you will be delighted. Mrs Philpot is one of the people you
23:  have go to help. Eleanor would help you ^I think^ as she does me. She is
24:  like mental champagne. I hope you’ll see each other really when you
25:  meet. I wish I could be there too. Don’t tell any one about my being
26:  not well. I hate people to know I’m ill, it cuts one somehow. I
27:  don’t mind you.
28: 
29:  Will you if it doesn’t bother you send me that New Werther & the
30:  play you wrote, & tell me how long ago they were written.
31: 
32:  Have you ever thought of going to Egypt? It must be so glorious there.
33:  Watch the sun rising over the large planes, it’s great clear
34:  unblinking eye opening slowly! The Egyptians couldn’t help building
35:  those wonderful temples & carving those wonderful images. Italy must
36:  be beautiful, but it must be the beauty of your lover whom you love,
37:  not that other beauty.
38: 
39:  O.S.
40: 
41:  I’ve ?not Do you ever go ^along^ to the British Museum, & just wander
42:  about not trying to think for study & then
43: 

Notation
'Your book' that Schreiner hopes she will understand could be one of a number that Pearson was working on at this time. 'New Werther' is the novel Pearson published pseudonymously as Loki: (1880) The New Werther London: Kegan Paul & Co; his play is: (1882) The Trinity: A Nineteenth Century Passion-Play Cambridge: E. Johnson.

Letter Reference	View Karl Pearson 840/4/2/41
Archive	University College London Library, Special Collections, UCL, London
Epistolary Type	Postcard
Letter Date	17 March 1886
Address From	Bournemouth, Dorset
Address To	2 Harcourt Buildings, Temple, London
Who To	Karl Pearson
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1:  I have read that paper. I think it splendid. Who is the woman? It’s
2:  the best paper by a woman I’ve ever read. I agree with her on almost
3:  all points but the one you mention
4: 
5:  O.S.
6: 
7:  ^Is the writer Mrs Caird?^
8: 
9: 
10: 
11: 

Notation
The paper Schreiner refers to is perhaps Emma Brooke's February 1886 paper intended for the Men and Women's Club, a response to Pearson's 'The Woman's Question'; this is entitled 'Notes on a man's view of the woman's question' and in the event only Schreiner and Pearson saw her paper.

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Archive	University College London Library, Special Collections, UCL, London
Epistolary Type	Postcard
Letter Date	17 March 1886
Address From	Bournemouth, Dorset
Address To	2 Harcourt Buildings, Temple, London
Who To	Karl Pearson
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1:  I want much to write notes on paper, but don’t like to keep it
2:  longer now. Please send it back to me some time. Please would you
3:  think if the writer would not mind (if it’s Mrs Caird, I’m sure
4:  she would not) send it to Dr Donkin to read. He will return it the
5:  next day. It would be a favour to me if you see your way to do it. All
6:  the cases the writer gives go for nothing because she does not give
7:  all the circumstances in any one.
8: 
9:  O.S.
10: 
11:  I will send you my address at South-Bourne as soon as I know it myself.
12: 
13: 
14: 
15: 

Notation
The paper Schreiner wants to write notes on is probably Emma Brooke's February 1886 response to Pearson's 'The Woman's Question', entitled 'Notes on a man's view of the woman's question'; this was intended for the Men and Women?s Club but in the event only Schreiner and Pearson saw her paper.

Letter Reference	View Karl Pearson 840/4/2/40
Archive	University College London Library, Special Collections, UCL, London
Epistolary Type	Letter
Letter Date	After Start: 22 March 1886 ; Before End: 24 March 1886
Address From	Oxford House, Southbourne, Dorset
Address To
Who To	Karl Pearson
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1:  Oxford House
2:  Southbourne-on-Sea
3: 
4:  The enclosed will show you what kind of woman Mrs Philpot is – not
5:  clever, but intelligent.
6: 
7:  You will love my Eleanor I know.
8: 
9:  Don’t get better. I am going to live in the Convent at Harrow with
10:  the dear nuns, at the top of the hill! I shall be coming up in a
11:  fortnights’ time. No one can come & see me there.
12: 
13:  Yours ever
14:  The wandering-Jew
15: 
16:  Do you leave on the 10th
17: 
18: 
19: 

Letter Reference	View Karl Pearson 840/4/2/43-44
Archive	University College London Library, Special Collections, UCL, London
Epistolary Type	Letter
Letter Date	23 March 1886
Address From	Oxford House, Southbourne, Dorset
Address To
Who To	Karl Pearson
Other Versions	Rive 1987: 74

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1:  Oxford House
2:  South Bourne-on-Sea
3:  March 23 / 86
4: 
5:  Dear K.P.
6: 
7:  I return the book. Many thanks. If you come across something very good
8:  please send it me.
9: 
10:  Have you ever noticed what a strange thing absence is: with some
11:  people you find it puts them quite away from you & with others it
12:  seems to bring them nearer to you.
13: 
14:  I have found out today that Mary Wollstonecraft & Godwin are buried at
15:  Bournemouth. I do you know on which burial ground.
16: 
17:  I want to go & see Heine’s grave in Paris one day. He belongs to me
18:  more than any body.
19: 
20:  Was the writer of that paper Mrs Caird? The ideas are just like what
21:  she has expressed to me in speaking. It gives one hope to hear such
22:  brave free words from a woman.
23: 
24:  //I went to-day to see Shelley’s monument at Christchurch. The man
25:  who made it ought to be killed. That ghastly dead thing Shelley!
26: 
27:  Shelley couldn’t die: he never died. "I change, but cannot die." He
28:  was like one of his little skylarks. I picked up a little dead one
29:  this morning, just decaying & passing back into the dear old earth &
30:  grass. To make Shelley lie there forever, a dead half naked man in the
31:  arms of a woman. This afternoon when I came out of the church, it was
32:  a wonderful afternoon - blue sky, & white clouds forming & reforming.
33:  They spoke much more of him.
34: 
35:  How are you getting on with all your work? I am better today than I
36:  have been for two months, it is the sunshine.
37: 
38:  There are so many skylarks here. I think they are making love at this
39:  time of year. that is why they are singing so. I saw a black beetle to
40:  day, the first I have seen in England.
41: 
42:  I enclose a letter to Miss Sharp which please send on.
43: 
44:  O.S.
45: 
46:  What I say to Miss Sharp is in answer to what y she said to me, not
47:  what you sent me, but she said almost the same
48: 
49: 

Notation
The book Schreiner returned to Pearson has not been established. 'That paper' most likely refers to Emma Brooke's response to Pearson?s paper, entitled 'Notes on a man?s view of the woman?s question'; this was intended for the February 1886 meeting of the Men and Women's Club, but in the event only Schreiner and Pearson saw it. 'I change, but cannot die' is from Percy Bysshe Shelley's 'The Cloud', in his (1820) Prometheus Unbound London: C & J Ollier. Rive's (1987) version omits part of this letter and is also in a number of respects incorrect.

Letter Reference	View Karl Pearson 840/4/2/45-49
Archive	University College London Library, Special Collections, UCL, London
Epistolary Type	Letter
Letter Date	Sunday 4 April 1886
Address From	St Dominic?s Convent, Mutrix Road, Kilburn, London
Address To
Who To	Karl Pearson
Other Versions	Rive 1987: 74-6

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1:  St Dominic’s.
2:  Mutrix Rd.
3:  Kilburn N.W.
4:  Sunday afternoon
5: 
6:  I have just come back from a ^solitary^ walk into the country to a place
7:  called Hendon.
8: 
9:  I sent you that poem of Miss Jones not to bother you about Hinton, but
10:  because I felt sorry for her when I read it; poor little soul! shut up
11:  in a body that doesn’t adequately express it. Has it ever struck you
12:  what a terrible thing it must be to have an external individuality
13:  which repells people from you instead of drawing them next to you?
14:  She’s wanted my love & friendship so, & I’ve been so selfish not
15:  caring to "give myself out" to meet her - I feel so sorry for her but
16:  I don’t know what to do for her exactly. She writes unreadable sadly
17:  that I won’t help her & I could if I liked.
18: 
19:  //Have you ever read Montaigne’s essay on friendship? I sometimes
20:  feel that he is my favourite writer, & that ^that is^ my favourite of
21:  his essays. Yes, friendship between men & women is a possibility, &
22:  our only escape from the suffering unreadable which sexual
23:  relationships now inflict. I was going to say, why it are poss it is a
24:  possible thing only when both ^man & woman^ unreadable have reached a
25:  certain height of ^in^ intellectual development not reached yet by the
26:  many - but when I remember such beautiful things as my friendship now
27:  ten years old with my old diamond digger who can hardly write a decent
28:  letter & reads nothing but his bible & paper, then I feel that even
29:  that is not true. But is there not always a possibility ^of^ for the
30:  consciousness of sex difference & the desires which spring from it
31:  creeping in, & spoiling the beautiful free frank friendship? - No, not
32:  when the friendship is true. unreadable For, suppose that friendship
33:  exists between a man & a woman, (friendship I take it, is that
34:  con-dition in which through the influence of sympathy one stretches
35:  out, & takes in^to oneself^ as it were, another personality, desires its
36:  health, its growth, its happiness, as an end in itself just as one
37:  does one’s own:) & suppose in addition to this general sense of
38:  oneness & sympathy, - no, I won’t go on with this, I’ll put it
39:  short.
40: 
41:  The most ideally perfect friendship between a man & a woman that I
42:  know of is one where the man in addition to unreadable sympathy with
43:  the woman’s whole understanding ^intellectual nature,^ feels that she
44:  is to him also sexually perfect; unreadable without friendship such a
45:  feeling would disturb & bring intense bitterness & sorrow; with that
46:  friendship the fact that such a feeling exists on one side only adds
47:  to the quiet beauty of the relationship. If I ^so^ loved a man
48:  unreadable that I felt he were the only human being it would have been
49:  possible for me to unreadable love wifehood under; yet it would never
50:  touch my friendship ^for him^ I should never even feel a wish that he
51:  should know it. "And if I love thee, what is that to thee?" that is
52:  the passion that grows out of friendship; not the old cruel sensual,
53:  "You must be mine! I will win your love though you die for it. I will
54:  tear you to pieces but I must have you."
55: 
56:  This passion you may say is a new thing. Yes, & so are the electric
57:  telegraph & the steam-ship; but they are not less real for that. There
58:  is nothing in which the race develops so much as in its forms of
59:  affection. But is it not possible that though a feeling of sex-love
60:  may not interfere with the most perfect, cold & reasonable friendship
61:  when felt on only one side, that, if it were mutually felt it would
62:  grow so strong as to kill out the more complex intellectual passion? -
63:  I cannot say from experience, but I can see no argument in right
64:  reason why it should do so. That friendships are possible between men
65:  & women ^unreadable^ without the least sex feeling on either side I have
66:  proved over and over again - the only question I have ever asked
67:  myself has been does "sex attraction" kill friendship? I think not.
68: 
69:  This letter is muddled, I am so tired after my long walk - that
70:  delightful kind of tiredness when one has got muddled by the fresh air.
71: 
72:  It will be so splendid for you on your holiday. I hope your mother^’s
73:  illness^ will not make you carry a certain anxiety with you.
74: 
75:  Don’t trouble to reply to this. When one is getting one’s holiday
76:  feeling on one, even the must of a letter to a friend is unrestful.
77: 
78:  I wrote you a very nasty letter the other day but tore it up again.
79:  You must have hurt me very much by that letter you wrote me ^at Portsea Place^
80:  because I can’t forget it. It comes back to me again when I thought
81:  I’d forgotten all about it.
82: 
83:  I can’t come to the Club because I’m not "allowed out" after nine
84:  at night: the house is locked & the nuns go to bed then. It isn’t
85:  like London this quiet house with the nuns in their white & black
86:  dresses walking so silently about. I haven’t spoken to a soul today.
87:  I have my meals alone in the little sittingroom. How peaceful & dead
88:  these women’s faces are, only one has still got strife in it. She
89:  has only been here five years. It is after nine or ten ^years^ that they
90:  get that look.
91: 
92:  ^I am sending you a little bit of a story of mine: you are not to read
93:  it just because I send it. I wouldn’t read anything of yours if I
94:  didn’t feel inclined. It’s the last chapter of a large novel I
95:  wrote long ago. I haven’t looked at it since I finished it some
96:  eight^^nine^^ years ago! I couldn’t look at it now. A friend was looking
97:  over some of my MS. the other day, & said they liked this. unreadable
98:  The novel is the story of a woman who begins life a wild passionate
99:  nature full of longings for love & knowledge & sympathy; & slowly she
100:  learns to renounce, & renounce, & renounce. I think In the part I send
101:  you she is at the Diamond Fields at the Cape; she has given up all her
102:  money, & is earning her living by ironing. By chance she finds that
103:  the man she once loved, & for whom she thought all feeling had died
104:  forever, is in Kimberley & has died of fever; she goes to lie with his
105:  dead body, & takes fever also, & then comes the bit I send. I can’t
106:  bear even to look at the outside of the old yellow MS. I don’t know
107:  what I drag them about with me for. I often try to burn them, & it
108:  gives me such pain. It seems as if I were burning the people in them.
109:  And yet I am afraid they will publish them after I am dead.^
110: 
111:  O.S.
112: 

Notation
The 'little bit of story of mine' sent to Pearson is from Undine. The poem mentioned is called 'Heresay', about a man wronged and so crushed by it he died, which is enclosed. Schreiner has written on it 'This is by poor Miss Jones.' It was published in 'Papers For the Times'. The book referred to is: Michel de Montaigne (1685) Essays of Michel de Montaigne London: T. Bassett. Rive's (1987) version omits part of the letter and is also in a number of respects incorrect.

Letter Reference	View Karl Pearson 840/4/2/50-51
Archive	University College London Library, Special Collections, UCL, London
Epistolary Type	Letter
Letter Date	Monday 12 April 1886
Address From	St Dominic?s Convent, Mutrix Road, Kilburn, London
Address To
Who To	Karl Pearson
Other Versions

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1:  St Dominics Convent
2:  Kilburn
3:  Monday
4: 
5:  Dear Mr Pearson
6: 
7:  I sent you that MS. not because I thought it good, but because I
8:  thought you might feel the kind of interest in it I feel in your old
9:  writings. You ought not to have read it now while you are so busy. I
10:  wonder what the work is you have had to relinquish for the time. If it
11:  is writing perhaps it is well so. Have you ever noticed when you are
12:  obliged even by illness to leave work unfinished, your mind seems to
13:  mature it, ^unconsciously^ & you come back to it, & are surprised to
14:  find with what added force. I am only sorry because of your holiday,
15:  it will press a little like an unseen weight on your mind all the time.
16: 
17:  //Much of what you say about creative unreadable ^work^ is true; only
18:  it’s not the whole truth. If I should have anything I should want to
19:  say while you are away I suppose I can send it to the Temple, & it
20:  will be forwarded.
21: 
22:  I don’t know what you feel with regard to pictures, but ^if they’re
23:  anything to you^ you ought to go & see Holman Hunts exhibition at 148
24:  New Bond St, if you have not seen unreadable it & have time before you
25:  leave. They give me a peculiar kind of joy, a deep restful kind of
26:  feeling. In the Christ’s face in the Shadow of Death there is a look
27:  that it seems to me no picture as embodied yet, something which
28:  expresses to me the aspiration of our modern world. It is all that old
29:  Christs are not. I believe unreadable the Jewish carpenter really
30:  lived unreadable
31: 
32:  I am getting on with my work. You are the only person almost I expect
33:  to like it - & perhaps you will not. Thank you very much for your
34:  letter.
35: 
36:  Yours very sincerely
37:  Olive Schreiner
38: 
39:  At Basel you are going to the place which above all others I wish to
40:  see. My father was there as a student. Ever since I was a child I have
41:  been picturing the hills he used to go to to botanise with the friend
42:  he loved. Are there hills at Basel? Don’t you think that German men
43:  have truer friendships ^with each other^ more often than Englishmen? I
44:  am going out of my convent tomorrow to meet Mrs Clifford.
45: 
46: 
47: 

Notation
The 'MS' referred to is from Undine.

Letter Reference	View Karl Pearson 840/4/2/52-53
Archive	University College London Library, Special Collections, UCL, London
Epistolary Type	Letter
Letter Date	8 May 1886
Address From	St Dominic?s Convent, Mutrix Road, Kilburn, London
Address To	2 Harcourt Buildings, Temple, London
Who To	Karl Pearson
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1:  St Dominics Convent
2:  Mutrix Rd
3:  Kilburn
4: 
5:  There is to be at 7 o’clock Monday eve. next, at 1 Adam St, Adelphi,
6:  Strand, a meeting of the New Life. Frei, a Russian friend of
7:  Tchykovsky’s is going to discourse on his socialistic experiences in
8:  America. Will you not come? I shall be there at seven but have to
9:  leave again at eight.
10: 
11:  I hope it has been a good time abroad.
12:  O.S.
13: 
14:  ^Have just remembered that tomorrow Monday is the Woll. Club. Came out
15:  from the Theatre this afternoon pressed under your elbow; but you have
16:  to look down such a long way to see me that I suppose I was invisible.^
17: 
18: 
19: 

Notation

Letter Reference	View Karl Pearson 840/4/2/54-56
Archive	University College London Library, Special Collections, UCL, London
Epistolary Type	Letter
Letter Date	Monday 10 May 1886
Address From	St Dominic?s Convent, Mutrix Road, Kilburn, London
Address To
Who To	Karl Pearson
Other Versions	Rive 1987: 76-7

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1:  St Dominics Convent
2:  Monday
3: 
4:  I think that one of the things most difficult of attainment & found
5:  only in the men & women of the most developed type, is that power of
6:  analyzing & of resisting the association of ideas, which results in
7:  being able to separate the man from the opinions he may hold; &, yet
8:  more, to separate in the man the man the weak & false part, from the
9:  true, & in the theory the false from the true. I think this is a
10:  condition of mind which it is most difficult to find in a woman
11:  because her narrower life has allowed of less development. I do not
12:  know how you would reason out the relation of this quality to sexual
13:  differences, - but this is an old matter of difference between us.
14: 
15:  //With regard to Miss Haddon; she does not see that the great aim in
16:  life is to dis-cover truth, i.e. the true relation between phenomena,
17:  the fact which is - & having found it that our duty is never to shut
18:  our eyes to it or to help other people in shutting their eyes to it -
19:  so she could never be to me an "angel of light". What she ought to do,
20:  holding is to sacrifice home friends, relations, good name, the
21:  sympathy of those she most prizes, for the sake of what she holds the
22:  truth, (I know two women in Africa & one in England whom I should
23:  expect to sacrifice children, friends, good name, in the cause of
24:  abstract truth. How many do you know? How many men even?). Miss Haddon
25:  is not an angel of light. The Christian spirit, is strong in her, but
26:  there are many beautiful sides to her character. The other afternoon
27:  when I saw her we were talking of men of genius, & how much greater
28:  you feel some individuals to be than their work makes it possible to
29:  prove that they are. You were mentioned as a man of this type, & she
30:  broke forth generously, that one felt you were a good & great man &
31:  added that "after all he has done valuable & good work as well". This
32:  seems a very little thing, but it seemed to me very magnanimous. One
33:  so seldom finds a humanbeing who can look at another, without being in
34:  anyway blinded by that persons relation to themselves. I feel grateful
35:  now to any one who will show me a little bit of the ideal.
36: 
37:  //Sometimes I have thought I saw in you a little swerving from that
38:  following after the absolute truth, & it has cost me some pain, but I
39:  will write of that some other time.
40: 
41:  I send you my copy of Walden; it’s a very bad edition, the extracts
42:  are not well arranged. On page 320 you will find his adequate excuse
43:  for having left the woods, on 323 a little allegory that pleases me a
44:  great deal. Perhaps it is only people who for many years have led a
45:  wild absolutely solitary life that see much in him, but parts you will
46:  like.
47: 
48:  I am going to write a preface to Mary Wollstonecraft if they will let
49:  me say just what I want to say.
50: 
51:  Yours ever
52:  O. S.
53: 
54:  It was good of you to think of that at Basel.
55: 
56:  I did speak to you coming out, & to Mr Parker; but you didn’t hear
57:  me. I was so glad to see you.
58: 
59:  //When that poor wretch is to be taken off to the torture the second
60:  time Beatrice ought to have taken all the guilt on herself, forging in
61:  it, clearing her mother & her brother. The judges should have
62:  condemned her to instant death., & she The curtain should fall as she
63:  is led off with a beatific smile upon her face. "Not guilt! God’s
64:  avenger!" Your last sight of her should be of something calmly
65:  triumphant. Don’t you think so.
66: 
67:  ^I am going to the Harrow Convent on Saturday.^
68: 
69: 
70: 
71: 

Notation
The 'preface to Mary Wollstonecraft' is the 'Introduction' Schreiner agreed to write for a new edition of Mary Wollstonecraft's A Vindication of the Rights of Woman (1792, London: J. Johnson) but which was never completed. A very early draft fragment of it appears in Carolyn Burdett (1994) History Workshop Journal 37: 189-93. 'Walden' is: Henry David Thoreau (1854) Walden, or Life in the Woods Boston: np. Rive's (1987) version omits part of this letter and is also in a number of respects incorrect.

Letter Reference	View Karl Pearson 840/4/2/57-59
Archive	University College London Library, Special Collections, UCL, London
Epistolary Type	Letter
Letter Date	Wednesday 13 May 1886
Address From	St Dominic?s Convent, Mutrix Road, Kilburn, London
Address To
Who To	Karl Pearson
Other Versions	Rive 1987: 77-8

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1:  Convent
2:  Wed. night.
3: 
4:  I think if you read your paper & Parker’s criticism together, they
5:  would form the most valuable paper that has yet been read at the club,
6:  & I say this highly as I think of Mr Parker’s ^last^ paper. I
7:  couldn’t write on "man’s prejudices" because I don’t believe
8:  there are any prejudices peculiar to man. I don’t think anything so
9:  complicated and intellectual runs with the sex difference. I stand
10:  open to correction, but the conclusion which up to the present I have
11:  been led to, is that this, that the mental difference with ^which^ is
12:  correlated with & answers to the physical sex difference, will be
13:  found to consist almost entirely in an emotional difference showing
14:  itself in the emotions connected with sex. The differences I mean are
15:  such as these - that there is in in the human male a tendency to prize
16:  the female more before he possesses her, & in the female to prize the
17:  male more after she has been sexually possessed by him. Of course
18:  friendship & sympathy & many other things may enter to obscure this.
19:  but I think a subtle & wide analysis will show it is there, & other
20:  difference of the same kind. I, however, feel still too uncertain that
21:  I have & see too much on the other side to write on the subject. May
22:  be I am all on the wrong tack. It seems to me that with out direct
23:  scientific experiment - such as I once mentioned to you - no certain
24:  conclusion in the matter can be arrived at, only a somewhat strong
25:  probability.
26: 
27:  If I go out to the Cape I will send you a very interesting paper for
28:  the club, being the views of Hottentot, Kaffir, Bushman & Basuto men &
29:  women, taken from their mouth^s^, & set down word by word in answer to
30:  my questions, of course giving my questions also. This would be of
31:  real value.
32: 
33:  I never thought of the cheap edition of Mary Wollstonecraft knocking
34:  ours on the head; but it doesn’t matter, one only wants people to
35:  read it & this will be cheaper. I doubt whether I shall be able to
36:  write the preface. Rhys is broad minded enough himself but the book
37:  has to pay. What I have to say of Mary Wollstonecraft is not to excuse
38:  her & not ^even^ to justify her; but to show that her greatness lay in
39:  this, her view with regard to marriage; & her action with regard to it.
40:  That she is the greatest of English women because she saw a hundred
41:  years ago with regard to sex & sex relationships what a few see today,
42:  & what the world will see in three hundred years’ time. This will
43:  not be what Rhys wants I think. I shall see him on Sat. week & tell
44:  you what he says.
45: 
46:  //The letter I enclose will I think interest you. I hardly like to
47:  show it to anyone because all expression of deep feeling is sacred;
48:  but it throws an interesting light on the question whether the love of
49:  offspring is not as strong in the one sex as in the
50: 
51:  ^other. When you remember that mentally & physically the writer is like
52:  Ray Lankester in type though more refined & not one given to
53:  expressing "emotion" the letter speaks more strongly. It is strange
54:  how his whole nature seems to have been touched, it is years since he
55:  wrote to me so tenderly as this. Don’t show the letter to any one
56:  else. ^
57: 
58:  O.S.
59: 
60:  I suppose there are thousands of men feel so to their children though
61:  no one suspects it. It is monstrous of the Hintonians to say that a
62:  woman’s desire for children corresponds to a man’s desire for
63:  sexual love. A woman’s desire ^^for children^^ corresponds to a man’s
64:  desire, is the same.
65: 
66:  Reading your paper ^^letter^^ over I see I have entirely misunderstood you.
67:  I thought you meant you would read that very good criticism of
68:  Parkers on your first paper & then & then yours in reply to him. They
69:  would form a splendid ground for dis-cussion.
70: 
71: 
72: 

Notation
'Your paper & Mr Parker's criticism' is Pearson's 'The Woman's Question' and Parker's 'A Note on Mr Pearson's paper' read at the Men and Women's Club in November 1885. 'Mr Parker's ^last^ paper' is 'Sexual Relations among the Greeks of the Periclean Era', read at the February 1886 meeting. 'Our' Mary Wollstonecraft refers to a planned Introduction to a new edition of Mary Wollstonecraft's (1792, London: J. Johnson) A Vindication of the Rights of Woman, which Schreiner agreed to write but never completed. A very early draft fragment of it appears in Carolyn Burdett (1994) History Workshop Journal 37: 189-93. Rive's (1987) version of this letter has been misdated, omits part of the letter, and is also in a number of respects incorrect.